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Episode 115

Guests: Tim Miller, Norm Eisen, Liz Oyer, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, Lisa Rubin 

The president says Jeffrey Epstein "stole" his teenage employee and Epstein's accomplice demands immunity. Tonight: why Trump's answers are getting sketchier and what we know about a possible pardon. Then, is the Senate about to give Donald Trump's defense attorney a lifetime seat on the bench?

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