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Rachel Maddow on America's Forgotten Insurrection

Rachel Maddow, longtime MSNBC anchor, joins Jon to to talk about her new podcast "Ultra," which details an all-but-forgotten ring-wing plot to overthrow American democracy — not in 2022, but in 1940. Though the context has changed, Rachel argues that the tactics and strategies to defeat have fascism have not and that we can learn from those who defeated the threat the first time.

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