Episode 2

Jen Psaki examines how Joe Biden and Donald Trump are basically living on different planets when it comes to their approach to American democracy. ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl discusses his new reporting on Trump's inaction on January 6th, and Howard Law School Professor Sherrilyn Ifill reacts to President Biden's remarks comparing Trump's election denialism to the aftermath of the Civil War, when former Confederate states were unwilling to accept defeat. Former Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe joins Jen to discuss Former President Obama's concerns about Biden's reelection campaign, and Plouffe also reacts to Obama's reported desire to see someone like him join the Biden team. Finally, Jen welcomes back Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi, who talks about January 6th and Rep. Elise Stefanik's refusal to certify the results of the next election. Pelosi also reacts to Trump's remarks that he'd like to see the American economy crash within the next 12 months.