As the Trump administration targets the federal workforce, we're joined by Michael Lewis, editor of and contributor to the New York Times bestselling collection "WHO IS GOVERNMENT?: The Untold Story of Public Service." Together, they explore the vital yet uncelebrated work of civil servants, discuss why negative perceptions of them persist, and consider what we may lose amid DOGE's chainsawing. Plus, learn what your relationship with your mother says about your relationship with government.
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