As the Trump administration's attacks on diversity initiatives intensify, we're joined by Heather McGhee, author of "The Sum of Us." Together, they explore the myths fueling anti-DEI sentiment, examine how the Trump administration weaponizes racial grievance to protect powerful interests, and discuss how a truly inclusive society benefits everyone, not just those historically excluded. Plus, Jon reacts to the deportation of Kilmar Ábrego García, the administration's gleeful response and Harvard's stand against Trump.
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