Monster Jam seasons

I would love to get the upcoming episodes in before they begin premiering tomorrow- what should be done?...

@Magitroopa wrote:
I would love to get the upcoming episodes in before they begin premiering tomorrow- what should be done?...

You've been tagged in multiple posts that you've ignored by myself...  

In the meantime I would add these episodes as a normal season for now until @david can weigh in. 

@TomSouthwell wrote:
You've been tagged in multiple posts that you've ignored by myself...  

In the meantime I would add these episodes as a normal season for now until @david can weigh in. 

My bad, but it seems like that was already updated by someone else.

And what 'normal season' # should I add it under? Just continue it and go from 13 to 14, or add it under season 20 (13 2016, 14 2017, 15, 2018, etc, leading up to 19 2022, and 20 2023)?

@Magitroopa wrote:
My bad, but it seems like that was already updated by someone else.

And what 'normal season' # should I add it under? Just continue it and go from 13 to 14, or add it under season 20 (13 2016, 14 2017, 15, 2018, etc, leading up to 19 2022, and 20 2023)?

Whatever season matches what's currently in place. 

I haven't added any episodes yet, but here's another thing to ask about:

Exactly how should the episodes be added? The official website has three different types of shows listed: Monster Jam, Inside Monster Jam, and Arena in 30.

Zap2it has them listed as separate shows, with Monster Jam, 2023 Inside Monster Jam, and 2023 Monster Jam - Arena in 30. Should all of these be added together on Monster Jam here, or should separate series be created for Inside Monster Jam/Arena in 30? If the first option, I'd image the titles would be like "San Diego - 1", "Inside Monster Jam - ThunderROARus", "Arena in 30 - Salt Lake City", etc.

Thoughts?

@Magitroopa wrote:
I haven't added any episodes yet, but here's another thing to ask about:

Exactly how should the episodes be added? The official website has three different types of shows listed: Monster Jam, Inside Monster Jam, and Arena in 30.

Zap2it has them listed as separate shows, with Monster Jam, 2023 Inside Monster Jam, and 2023 Monster Jam - Arena in 30. Should all of these be added together on Monster Jam here, or should separate series be created for Inside Monster Jam/Arena in 30? If the first option, I'd image the titles would be like "San Diego - 1", "Inside Monster Jam - ThunderROARus", "Arena in 30 - Salt Lake City", etc.

Thoughts?

Three seperate shows. This is clear in data policies as you have three different formats of show with three different titles.

@TomSouthwell Sorry to revive this thread 2 years later... but I am going to attempt my best at updating the older seasons of Monster Jam. I have a membership subscription to their official YouTube channel, so I also have access to older/archived episodes of Monster Jam from as far back as 2000.

My main question... what network would I list on the individual season pages, such as here? Main reason I'm asking is because some of Monster Jam's past aired networks have gone defunct and/or rebranded, such as...:

1. TNN/The National Network (2000-2002 episodes): originally named 'The Nashville Network', was later relaunched as 'Spike TV/Spike', which in turn, later relaunched as presently 'Paramount Network'.

2. Speed (2003-2013 episodes): was later shutdown and replaced by 'Fox Sports 1'.

Would I use what the present-day equivalents are, so use Paramount Network for TNN, and use Fox Sports 1 for Speed? The latter making it a bit confusing, as Monster Jam moved to Fox Sports 1 after its run at Speed, so it would just say 2003-2018 episodes as Fox Sports 1, even though the reality is 2003-2013 episodes on Speed and 2014-2018 episodes on Fox Sports 1.

Apologies again for this, but would love to try and get as much work as I can on getting Monster Jam all up-to-date.

@Magitroopa wrote:
@TomSouthwell Sorry to revive this thread 2 years later... but I am going to attempt my best at updating the older seasons of Monster Jam. I have a membership subscription to their official YouTube channel, so I also have access to older/archived episodes of Monster Jam from as far back as 2000.

My main question... what network would I list on the individual season pages, such as here? Main reason I'm asking is because some of Monster Jam's past aired networks have gone defunct and/or rebranded, such as...:

1. TNN/The National Network (2000-2002 episodes): originally named 'The Nashville Network', was later relaunched as 'Spike TV/Spike', which in turn, later relaunched as presently 'Paramount Network'.

2. Speed (2003-2013 episodes): was later shutdown and replaced by 'Fox Sports 1'.

Would I use what the present-day equivalents are, so use Paramount Network for TNN, and use Fox Sports 1 for Speed? The latter making it a bit confusing, as Monster Jam moved to Fox Sports 1 after its run at Speed, so it would just say 2003-2018 episodes as Fox Sports 1, even though the reality is 2003-2013 episodes on Speed and 2014-2018 episodes on Fox Sports 1.

Apologies again for this, but would love to try and get as much work as I can on getting Monster Jam all up-to-date.

Whatever the networks are called now, but also depends how each show was presented on each network. Has it always been called Monster Jam, did each network start the show from season 1 or press releases call it a new show etc? 

@TomSouthwell wrote:
Whatever the networks are called now, but also depends how each show was presented on each network. Has it always been called Monster Jam, did each network start the show from season 1 or press releases call it a new show etc? 

Yeah, that's the main issue- there's not many sources apart from the full episodes available on their YouTube channel.

Based off of the two sources in this Wikipedia article (TNN brings "Motor Madness" back ----- PNB interview, take 3), it seems that early on (90's) it begun under the show 'Motor Madness', and then in the early 2000's, was made into its own separate show, Monster Jam. So I think the 'Motor Madness' episodes would stay separate (and be under the Motor Madness show here if/when that were to be created), and episodes since it became separate from MM would be under the main Monster Jam show here.

There's also information regarding the networks its been broadcast on here on Wikipedia (some of the info/sources included courtesy of myself), but essentially, I don't think they ever labelled anything specifically as 'seasons', even though they were seasons. And when network moves happened, it was never, "Coming to xxxxx network for ## season(s)", but just that, "blah blah blah, this will be the home of new episodes", etc. (such as the move to MAVTV here, "26 1-hour stadium events" which would be considered the main series, as opposed to the new shows 'Arena in 30' and 'Inside Monster Jam').

@Magitroopa wrote:
Yeah, that's the main issue- there's not many sources apart from the full episodes available on their YouTube channel.

Based off of the two sources in this Wikipedia article (TNN brings "Motor Madness" back ----- PNB interview, take 3), it seems that early on (90's) it begun under the show 'Motor Madness', and then in the early 2000's, was made into its own separate show, Monster Jam. So I think the 'Motor Madness' episodes would stay separate (and be under the Motor Madness show here if/when that were to be created), and episodes since it became separate from MM would be under the main Monster Jam show here.

There's also information regarding the networks its been broadcast on here on Wikipedia (some of the info/sources included courtesy of myself), but essentially, I don't think they ever labelled anything specifically as 'seasons', even though they were seasons. And when network moves happened, it was never, "Coming to xxxxx network for ## season(s)", but just that, "blah blah blah, this will be the home of new episodes", etc. (such as the move to MAVTV here, "26 1-hour stadium events" which would be considered the main series, as opposed to the new shows 'Arena in 30' and 'Inside Monster Jam').

Do what you think is best as long as it meets guidelines, i.E. if youre suddenly treading into multi network seasons wed probably have to look at whether we keep the show at all as per policy. 

@TomSouthwell wrote:
Do what you think is best as long as it meets guidelines, i.E. if youre suddenly treading into multi network seasons wed probably have to look at whether we keep the show at all as per policy. 

Alright, so basically for an explanation for the history of this all (hopefully I make sense in all of this, lol):

There was always typically 1 main 'Monster Jam' show. Then when the main network for Monster Jam became MAVTV in 2023, the main 'Monster Jam' series continued, but 'Arena in 30' and 'Inside Monster Jam' debuted, with there being three separate shows running (the three shows has only been since MAVTV in 2023). Prior to that, NBCSN was the network for the main Monster Jam series from 2019-2022, Fox Sports 1 from 2014-2018, and Speed 2003-2013.

Then, prior to even Speed, it was part of a separate 'Motor Madness' series, which included other racing events apart from just monster trucks.

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So what I'm saying is that there are the two other shows since 2023 (Arena in 30 and Inside Monster Jam).

Then there is 'Motor Madness' that would be a separate show from whatever point in the 90s to 2002/3 (whenever that ended).

Then there is the main Monster Jam series, with:

1. Seasons 1-11 (2003-2013) on Speed (would be labeled as Fox Sports 1 as that replaced it)

2. Seasons 12-16 (2014-2018) on Fox Sports 1

3. Seasons 17-19 (2019-2022) on NBCSN

4. Seasons 20-present (2023-present) on MAVTV/what is now rebranded as RACER Network

That would then be 4 separate shows, being 'Motor Madness', 'Monster Jam', 'Arena in 30', and 'Inside Monster Jam'.

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And as per the policy:

Sports tournaments that premiere exclusively in a single country, but where the matches within a season/year don't always air on the same Network or Web Channel.

I would think this would be still be acceptable, as the network changes did not happen in the middle of an airing season, but rather between airing seasons. And as per my previous, "I don't think they ever labelled anything specifically as 'seasons'" - maybe poor wording on my part, but there definitely were/are separate seasons, but they just never advertised it as such. For example, going to their archives, the episode 'Monster Jam - 2007 - Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN - Racing' (I linked it, but you would need a membership from the YouTube channel), the announcer opens the episode saying, "the tradition-rich Metrodome in Minneapolis, Minnesota is the site for the start of a brand-new season of Monster Jam on Speed, and it's going to be a season unlike any you've ever seen before."

Another example, the episode 'Monster Jam - 2012 - M&T Bank Stadium - Baltimore, MD - Racing', "...it also launches our new season on Speed, and of course, that means it's round one on the road to Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam World Finals 14, you're always going to have the best seat right here on Speed."

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Hopefully that explains it much better, sorry for everything in this to read, lol.