Person changing name (deadnaming?)


Magitroopa wrote 21 days ago: 1

Apologies for this new thread, but just wanting to make sure first... and maybe others on here who are wondering the same thing regarding another case of this, so hopefully this helps others too.

I've been creating new people on TVmaze to add them to their respective episodes of Jeopardy! where they were contestants (for example, for tomorrow night's episode, with Cameron Berry, Harvey Silikovitz, and Jason Singer as the contestants).

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I think I know how to handle it, but with how offended some people might be, I just wanted to make sure in advance that it is the correct way to handle it.

Basically, in their original appearance (the August 13, 2021 episode), they went by the name 'Nicolle Neulist'. Fast forward to the 2022 Second Chance Tournament beginning in October 2022, and they were one of the contestants to return for the tournament. In their first episode in the tournament (the October 26, 2022 episode) they had begun using their new name, 'Rowan Ward'.

I am wanting to be respectful and not deadname or anything, but how would I go about this? My thinking is to create a single person under 'Rowan Ward' so that their later appearances just says 'Rowan Ward as Themselves', but then also be added onto the August 2021 episode by their previous name so it then says 'Rowan Ward as Themselves (Nicolle Neulist)'?

Also noting that on j-archive, their page for info about them does not mention what their original name was whatsoever (I assume so as not to deadname), and the only mention of any of this on there is a sentence stating, "rowan competed under a different name for this appearance." Also adding on that in this clip from one of their Second Chance episodes, they literally explain how they used their original winnings from their August 2021 episode to pay for their name change.

Any help is appreciated regarding this, thanks in advance.


TomSouthwell wrote 21 days ago: 2

@Magitroopa wrote:
Apologies for this new thread, but just wanting to make sure first... and maybe others on here who are wondering the same thing regarding another case of this, so hopefully this helps others too.

I've been creating new people on TVmaze to add them to their respective episodes of Jeopardy! where they were contestants (for example, for tomorrow night's episode, with Cameron Berry, Harvey Silikovitz, and Jason Singer as the contestants).

-----

I think I know how to handle it, but with how offended some people might be, I just wanted to make sure in advance that it is the correct way to handle it.

Basically, in their original appearance (the August 13, 2021 episode), they went by the name 'Nicolle Neulist'. Fast forward to the 2022 Second Chance Tournament beginning in October 2022, and they were one of the contestants to return for the tournament. In their first episode in the tournament (the October 26, 2022 episode) they had begun using their new name, 'Rowan Ward'.

I am wanting to be respectful and not deadname or anything, but how would I go about this? My thinking is to create a single person under 'Rowan Ward' so that their later appearances just says 'Rowan Ward as Themselves', but then also be added onto the August 2021 episode by their previous name so it then says 'Rowan Ward as Themselves (Nicolle Neulist)'?

Also noting that on j-archive, their page for info about them does not mention what their original name was whatsoever (I assume so as not to deadname), and the only mention of any of this on there is a sentence stating, "rowan competed under a different name for this appearance." Also adding on that in this clip from one of their Second Chance episodes, they literally explain how they used their original winnings from their August 2021 episode to pay for their name change.

Any help is appreciated regarding this, thanks in advance.

Theyd always be known as Rowan Ward as Themselves for those appearances and a second character of Nicolle for those apprances. Both characters linked to Rowans profile. You can add the other name as an aka to the person profile. I would be hesitant to call it their dead name, unless theyve explicitly called it that. Are the contestant names featured in credits though? 


Magitroopa wrote 21 days ago: 1

@TomSouthwell wrote:
Theyd always be known as Rowan Ward as Themselves for those appearances and a second character of Nicolle for those apprances. Both characters linked to Rowans profile. You can add the other name as an aka to the person profile. I would be hesitant to call it their dead name, unless theyve explicitly called it that. Are the contestant names featured in credits though? 

As far this show is concerned, the contestants are not credited in the actual show credits, but rather just in the opening when the announcer announces them. You can see an example from a full exhibition game here on YouTube (for example...) So basically, yes, in their original game, they had their previous name (Nicolle Neulist) as their name displayed in the intro, and as Rowan Ward for their later appearances.

I cannot find any social media posts from Rowan over the years explicitly referring to it as a deadname, but other articles (such as this) call it a deadname.

As I mentioned in the original post, what you said is how I thought it should handled as well, but given the circumstances, just wanted to take extra precaution and be for certain.


tallanvor wrote 21 days ago: 2

@Magitroopa wrote:
As far this show is concerned, the contestants are not credited in the actual show credits, but rather just in the opening when the announcer announces them. You can see an example from a full exhibition game here on YouTube (for example...) So basically, yes, in their original game, they had their previous name (Nicolle Neulist) as their name displayed in the intro, and as Rowan Ward for their later appearances.

I cannot find any social media posts from Rowan over the years explicitly referring to it as a deadname, but other articles (such as this) call it a deadname.

As I mentioned in the original post, what you said is how I thought it should handled as well, but given the circumstances, just wanted to take extra precaution and be for certain.

It's not deadnaming to list the name they were using at the time - deadnaming is using their old name when referring them now.  You can see how it's handled with Elliot Page, for example: https://www.tvmaze.com/people/38950/elliot-page .


Magitroopa wrote 21 days ago: 1

@TomSouthwell wrote:
Theyd always be known as Rowan Ward as Themselves for those appearances and a second character of Nicolle for those apprances. Both characters linked to Rowans profile. You can add the other name as an aka to the person profile. I would be hesitant to call it their dead name, unless theyve explicitly called it that. Are the contestant names featured in credits though? 

@tallanvor wrote:
It's not deadnaming to list the name they were using at the time - deadnaming is using their old name when referring them now.  You can see how it's handled with Elliot Page, for example: https://www.tvmaze.com/people/38950/elliot-page .

Thank you for the responses- so does this look good/correct?: https://www.tvmaze.com/people/479684/rowan-ward

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