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44 episodes have aired to date. I wanted to add at least one. I will add the rest soon.

They rebooted it as a live-action series with a Christmas Special and 10 episodes with an all new cast. It starts from square one for people who may have never seen the cartoon.

The dictionary defines a reboot as 

" the act or an instance of shutting down and restarting something". Since both shows are continuing we would use franchise in this instance, I have changed it as such :). 

Thanks

Tom

Ghostbusters was rebooted in 2016 but the original franchise was continued in 2021 with Ghostbusters Afterlife.

I went by TVmaze's definition of a reboot which says: A show with mostly the same characters as a previous show, remade for a different era.

The new Loud House restarts the storyline from the beginning with the same characters, and the old Loud House came out in 2016 which is a different era to now. It's also not a franchise. TVmaze defines a franchise as:

A show that's closely related to an existing show; because they share a similar name and premise, (main) crew or cast members portraying the same character, cinematic universe, and/or a continuous storyline. This relation only applies when the similarites are present for the majority of the show's run; an occasional "crossover episode" between two shows that otherwise share no similarities does not warrant creating a show relation.

Franchise doesn't fit because it's new cast and crew and it's not a continuous story line.

They are not completely unrelated. This press release refers to the latest special this way  "In his first special since 2018’s Woke-ish"

https://www.tvinsider.com/1005579/hbo-max-marlon-wayans-comedy-special-you-know-what-it-is/

They are both web platforms. Just not the same one. How is this different from a sequel to a made for TV movie?

First of all, it's not a press release. It's an article, written by some guy on some TV site. The official press releases from HBO don't have any mentions of his previous specials https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us/property/marlon-wayans-you-know-what-it
And by the way, it ends with the following: This marks the first project to debut through Wayans overall deal with HBO Max. 

So it's not a sequel. It's the very first project made by Wayans for HBO Max.

Besides that, Our definition of a TV show is something that has at least two episodes/parts in a serial format, i.e. the two episodes should correlate to each other, air on the same network, and have an overlap in plot/cast/crew.
https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/13/shows 

So far they are just two standalone specials of the same comedian, made in different years for different streamers by different production companies.

I missed/spaced that part of the policy about airs on the same network, and same crew. My mistake.

The short answer is official press releases

And co-stars?

In this case precedent since that's how it was done in previous seasons.

You mean, how it was done by you?

The first episode which has co-stars is https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/914152/good-witch-s03-special-good-witch-secrets-of-grey-house
And it has them only because you added some of the guest stars as co-starring.

So I'll ask again, why you're adding guest stars as co-starring if they're not credited as such?

I don't remember exactly. There may have been a press release or I got guidance from other users on TVmaze. Please forgive me if I did it wrong.

Why are you continuing to add non-existing co-stars to Good Witch?
There are no actors credited as co-stars in this show.
I already told you that week ago.
There are no "press releases" that credited them as such, and no user whose opinion matters would suggest you add co-stars if there are no co-stars in the episode on-screen credits.

I'm expecting a straight answer, why you keep doing that?

What I recall is that in the original episodes there were press releases with the names of guest stars and end-credit names were always omitted from that list, and I was able to infer that end-credit names were co-stars and not guest stars that way.

I truly don't mean to be difficult.

On-screen credits have the highest priority.

Co-starring is not something added by omission. It's a separate kind of guest star. Same as "Special guest". Unless someone specifically credited as "co-starring" or "special guest", they should be listed as default "guest star", which is thoroughly explained in the policy https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/16/episode-extras 

We do not invent credits. They are not depending on the significance of the character or the number of its appearances. We credit each actor exactly as they are credited on-screen, as simple as that.

Which begs another question, about all these Brat shows. I wonder where did you get the information about the main cast if they do not have any on-screen credits, and on their own website they list much fewer actors than we have as "starring" for each of the shows https://www.brat.com/shows 

I see you added them as Uncredited first (which is actually correct, because none of them are credited on-screen), now you're moving them to the main cast. Did you found a new source of information, or you just making new rules as you go?

First please accept my apology for why I did what I did with Good Witch shows. I am only human but I still have great respect for the TVmaze policy which I refer to often. I from now on will only ever add guests as co-stars who have been credited as such on screen. I can honestly say this has never happened on any other show.

Now Brat shows used to credit cast and crew members in the description below which was exclusively how at-the-time I knew which cast members to add to TVmaze. Cast credits also invariably linked to the performers' respective YouTube channels which maybe the reason why they had such trouble keeping those cast lists maintained. Because back in those days they would often add names to the cast in the description after the episodes had been released as was the case with Mani Season 1.

Hopefully someone else from TVmaze can corroborate that this was how cast used to be credited in Brat programs because all cast and crew names appear to have been removed from Mani Season 1 since then. Or at the very least you can trust that my memory is accurate which I am absolutely sure of because I recall how awkward it was going back and noticing new names added to the cast on episodes after they had been released.

Recently Tom messaged me asking me about some uncredited names that he was confused about. I distinctly recalled that they had been credited in the description which was why I moved them from uncredited to cast.

Yes it's called the Brat Universe. In it there are two adjacent towns that share a coffee shop: Attaway (Chicken Girls) and Millwood (Total Eclipse). All of the other shows take place in one of these two towns and share at least one character and therefore exist in the same universe (same fictional high school or coffee shop used in other shows etc)

Ok, thanks.

Just taking a look and I'm struggling to find overlapping characters in some of these series for example:

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/55408/charmers

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/32319/mani

Also do you know what's happened with the cast listings for Mani, cast added a show stars but then only credited in guest or uncredited appearances? 

Sophie Fergi plays the same character in Mani and Charmers. All Brat shows are part of the Brat Universe.

I don't understand your question about Mani but it appears some main cast members were incorrectly added as guest cast.

https://www.tvmaze.com/people/210855/sophie-fergi

"Goth Girl" (Uncredited) in Mani. Is it explicitly stated that this is the same character that she plays in Charmers Zaria? Why was the character added as main cast but also as uncredited. If they appear uncredited they shouldn't be added as main cast?