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Well it seems odd to have a main cast member listed as guestcast too. How is she credited in the episode? Both as main and guest or just as guest

I mean, realistically, if we were to go by just the credits (though I personally would count the "Deborah Roberts reporting" as 'crediting'), the end credits only crew members are listed (specifically executive producer, senior producer, executive editorial producer, senior writer, director, episode-specific producers, episode-specific editorial producer, editors, post production editors, cameras, additional producer, associate director, production associates, art directors, graphic artists, digital producer, and special thanks).

If we were to go that strictly and only include what/who is listed in the end credits, then no one should be listed on the episode(s) here, though I'd say going that direction would be more on the unhelpful side of things.

I agree that if it says Deborah Roberts reporting then she is technically credited, so feel free to add her back then. Normally you wouldnt have a main cast also be guest cast hence why i deleted it bur I'm happy to go with how you want it since you seem to follow the show.

A Trusted Contributor (or higher) needs to readd it then, as I cannot. It was these two episodes, though:

https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/2658110/2020-2023-10-06-catch-us-if-you-can

https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/2658111/2020-2023-10-13-snatched

Ok. i've re-added them.

Hello Joe

Normally, yes we would go with the first airing. However from what i can find this show is a 100% BBC production which means they are the airdate owner and their dates must be the main ones - if it had been a co-production between BBC and PBS then they PBS dates would have been the main ones since they aired first.

https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/15/episodes

I will check with the other staff though, just in case

MTQ

Thanks a bunch for checking into this further. I had another idea that may not apply here. But...

The BBC Three show Being Human https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/809/being-human has a Related Show (Foreign Remake). It is the Syfy Channel's Being Human https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/218/being-human. Both Ancient Invisible Cities have host/presenters that appear throughout each separate episode. They are exploring the same three cities as separate productions, with BBC Two using Michael Scott and PBS using Darius Arya. I just reviewed the PBS website to remind myself. I first viewed the series a couple of years ago. 

It seems that both Ancient Invisible Cities could qualify in the same way as both Being Human. Maybe not, but please add my idea for consideration.

Thanks as always.

Joe

Our Brit and PBS experts have dug deep and it seems it actually is a co-production and there are differences enough to keep both shows so it has been unmarked for deletion. Good catch Joe :)

MTQ

Hey MTQ. Sorry for the delay writing back. Thanks for working this further. I know the research could have supported deletion. I just hate the loss of any information and the effort of various TVmazers updating any series. 

Back to both Ancient Invisible Cities, there should be a Show Relation to link them I think. "Franchise" does not seem to fit. Since they are a co-production, can one be the "Foreign Remake" of the other? The PBS episode 1 did air 9 days before the BBC Two episode 1. The other choices do not seem to fit. What do you think? 

Thanks a bunch.

Joe

Dammit, why cant networks just show on the episodeguide if the episode has been aired before, would make our lives so much easier. I will delete the 11th december episode again.

That's Ok. I find it a PITA as well. What I wasn't sure about is what are the TVMaze policies on this.

I suppose technically speaking it's a "new" episode since, while the individual stories are repeats, they are "new" in that combination. The intro & ending are also "new".

Having said that I personally consider them repeats.

The official Australian TV ratings for 2023 begin on Sunday 12th February, so I'm guessing these repackaged repeats will continue until around that time (based on the known return of a number of other shows, I think the 1st real new episode will either be the 29th Jan or the 5th Feb ... time will tell).

Cheers

Hi MTQ,

Just a FYI ... As suspected back in December, 60 Minutes (AU) returns with new episodes the coming Sunday night (5th Feb). I've added a new season & the 1st episode as TBA since that info hasn't been published yet.

Cheers
BazzaG...

Quit updating episodes if they are incorrect. Episode 7 of Hoffman Family Gold is not Ice Cold Gold. That is episode 6 which is next Friday, April 29. It is reaired on Friday, May 6 at 7 pm. If you actually watch the show, you'd understand how Discovery Channel is showing this series and any other Gold Rush series. I happen to think you just pull these episodes from other sites that incorrectly have them listed as well. 

Jeez get over yourself. This was among the (very long) daily list of conflicts that staff have to process every day and i just didnt realise it was re-run episode. It was an honest mistake so no need for the attitude.

Get over yourself. I spend a lot of time myself making sure things are correct.