Dead or redirected websites

gazza911 wrote 10 years ago: 1

I've been meaning to ask this for a while now, but I've never got round to doing it...

Networks often only keep a show page (or even entire domain if it's separate) whilst the show is still airing / has products coming out / etc and not always forever, or if your looking for more information on say air dates, it may only specify the re-runs & future dates.

A solution to this is to use the internet archive (IA) to view what was on the site at different dates/times that it was crawled. I do this quite frequently to verify data (normally when people/databases disagree with each other).

My question is, for a defunct site (one that no longer loads), how does TVMaze want it entered here? Here's a few options:

1. Enter in the dead site - for historical purposes; if other people want to, they can use the IA themselves

2. Enter in a link to a snapshot of it from the IA - which is in the format: https://web.archive.org/web/date & time/website

3. If another network aired it later and has a functioning page for it, use that... though that would go against the current FAQ

4. Don't enter in any website at all

LadyShelley wrote 10 years ago: 1

I'm kinda on-board with the no website at all, honestly; the biggest reason being the sites are too ephemeral to really be useful.

JuanArango wrote 10 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:
I'm kinda on-board with the no website at all, honestly; the biggest reason being the sites are too ephemeral to really be useful.

I need to sleep over it, right now out of my mind I would say no website at all....but need some time :)

gazza911 wrote 10 years ago: 1

Here's an example:

http://www.urawa-usagi.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160324142010/http://urawa-usagi.com/

You can still navigate the site, click on links, see images, find information, etc

Jan wrote 10 years ago: 1

Hi gazza, we'll discuss it further. It's not a bad proposal to point to the archive or a secondary page from the network itself.

Curious to know what others think of this.

cheers,

Jan

david wrote 10 years ago: 1

That's a good question!

I think I lean towards #4. Linking to a dead website (#1) isn't very user friendly. Using the internet archive (#2) is great for research purposes, but it's not a great user experience for the general public: it's pretty slow to load a site there and the result is often partly broken or incomplete. #3 would be pretty confusing, for example if that site lists their re-run airdates instead of the original premiere dates, and indeed goes against the general spirit of the FAQ.

gazza911 wrote 10 years ago: 1

david wrote:
That's a good question!
I think I lean towards #4.

Is that currently your opinion or will that be TVMaze's official stance on this?

If it is official, should we remove dead websites from any existing shows?

david wrote 10 years ago: 1

Just my opinion right now. But unless we get wildly different opinions in this thread, I'll probably make it official soon. :)

gazza911 wrote 10 years ago: 1

I'm going to take it that if I come across any that are like this (of which I've seen many types ranging from 404 errors, to domain names up for sale, to domain not used by anyone) - even if accessible via archives that I don't add them?

P.S You never answered one of the questions: should we remove dead websites from any existing shows?