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Magitroopa wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Aidan wrote:
While there's no press releases with those episode names or dates they have been confirmed in a interview the producer did with deadline.

 

https://deadline.com/2020/06/americas-got-talent-resume-filming-simon-cowell-1202973731/

That should be good enough. As for some it being special I don't see that happening as recap episodes always air as regular episodes on the reality shows on NBC.

A. Pretty sure I've been told in the past (for other series) that we wait until the we have the official title, so they should be titled "Episode #" and with the airdate until the title is officially confirmed. (Or just "TBA")

B. I'd say a 15th anniversary special episode should be listed under the 'specials' section... it would be one thing if it were just a recap of this season, but that's already happening in "AGT: Best of Auditions" on July 21, so this is likely a 15th anniversary special highlighting moments/acts throughout the entire series, so that would definitely be better off as a special than a S15 episode.

 

EDIT: Honestly, I haven't looked through the policy guidelines here that much, as I usually am just adding verified info and not speculation :P

No clue if these policies are still used, but...

"For the vast majority of shows, the network or web channel assigns episode titles to each episode. In such a case, the original episode title should be used, without any changes to e.g. the punctuation or capitalization. If a future episode for such a show is officially announced but no title is known yet, "TBA" may be used as name until the title has been announced as well."

So yes, based on that, we should wait for the official title to be released from a source. I've also sometimes added episodes as just "Episode #" like on these AGT episodes, now I see for future reference to just add it as "TBA".



Aidan wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
B. I'd say a 15th anniversary special episode should be listed under the 'specials' section... it would be one thing if it were just a recap of this season, but that's already happening in "AGT: Best of Auditions" on July 21, so this is likely a 15th anniversary special highlighting moments/acts throughout the entire series, so that would definitely be better off as a special than a S15 episode.

NBC and specials are annoying as the episode pages on NBC.com always list them as regular episodes, so once you add a special the episode order will be out of sync, so use it sparingly.


Magitroopa wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Aidan wrote:
NBC and specials are annoying as the episode pages on NBC.com always list them as regular episodes, so once you add a special the episode order will be out of sync, so use it sparingly.

Oh yes, no doubt NBC does some funky stuff. Another TV site, TheMovieDB, lists the 'AGT: The Champions' episodes under regular AGT seasons 13 and 14 respectively, because NBC lists the episodes that way too (Even though plenty of sources state it is a separate series, lol)

 

EDIT: So as per my above post, this episode and this episode should be changed to just "TBA" until we officially have the titles.



Aidan wrote 5 years ago: 1

It's been called Judge Cuts since they started doing them, so changing it to TBA seems unneccessary.


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Aidan wrote:
It's been called Judge Cuts since they started doing them, so changing it to TBA seems unneccessary.

You both have much more knowledge about that show than I do, but if we follow the policy episodes should be called TBA until a name is made known to the public, so I think it does no harm to have those two episodes listed as TBA until we know the correct titles :)



Aidan wrote 5 years ago: 1

@JuanArango wrote:
You both have much more knowledge about that show than I do, but if we follow the policy episodes should be called TBA until a name is made known to the public, so I think it does no harm to have those two episodes listed as TBA until we know the correct titles :)

I've maintained and finalized every episode of that show the last 4-5 years and I very much do mind when nitpicking over policy comes in the way of adding something I know to be correct.


Magitroopa wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Aidan wrote:
I've maintained and finalized every episode of that show the last 4-5 years and I very much do mind when nitpicking over policy comes in the way of adding something I know to be correct.

I really don't understand that last part... neither of the two titles are listed on Futon Critic, Zap2it, NBC's press site, or any television guides (I've also checked TV Guide, and they barely have anything filled in for that week atm). You can't really know it to be correct when it isn't listed anywhere. The Deadline article only mentions the episodes themselves, saying, 

A. "NBC has reduced the number of Judge Cuts episodes from four to one, airing on July 28" - not, "An episode titled "Judge Cuts" will be aired on July 28."

B. "a 15th anniversary special on August 4." - not, "America's Got Talent's "15th Anniversary Special" will be aired on August 4."

You're simply assuming these will be the episode titles, they have not yet been confirmed to be the official titles anywhere. We should definitely be following the policies and not just trying to guess the titles.



Aidan wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
I really don't understand that last part... neither of the two titles are listed on Futon Critic, Zap2it, NBC's press site, or any television guides (I've also checked TV Guide, and they barely have anything filled in for that week atm). You can't really know it to be correct when it isn't listed anywhere. The Deadline article only mentions the episodes themselves, saying, 

A. "NBC has reduced the number of Judge Cuts episodes from four to one, airing on July 28" - not, "An episode titled "Judge Cuts" will be aired on July 28."

B. "a 15th anniversary special on August 4." - not, "America's Got Talent's "15th Anniversary Special" will be aired on August 4."

You're simply assuming these will be the episode titles, they have not yet been confirmed to be the official titles anywhere. We should definitely be following the policies and not just trying to guess the titles.

TV producers communicate with the public in more ways than just through press releases so it's not far-fetched that there's information out there you can't find on futon.

Furthermore it's been called Judge Cuts since they started doing them, are you suggesting they'll be renaming them to something else all of a sudden, even after the producers calling them exactly that publicly?

Doing a quick google search I get a multitude of news articles all giving the same schedule for AGT, all calling it judge cuts.

Just for the fun of it, here's the first google hit when you search for AGT schedule. (Scroll down a bit).


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
 

A. "NBC has reduced the number of Judge Cuts episodes from four to one, airing on July 28" - not, "An episode titled "Judge Cuts" will be aired on July 28."

B. "a 15th anniversary special on August 4." - not, "America's Got Talent's "15th Anniversary Special" will be aired on August 4."

 

Ok, guys, i really do not want to fight over such a small thing :) From what you pasted here , it is highly likely that the episode will be called Judge Cuts, not 100% of course and if Aidan is managing that show for years now, I think we can overlook that it is not 100% sure yet. If the title will be a different one, Aidan will surely change it to the correct one. Let us have a beer :)


Magitroopa wrote 5 years ago: 1

On another subject- how exactly are competition/game shows/guessing shows handled? Like The Masked Singer- I'd assume since the point of it is to guess who is under each mask, adding whoever is revealed as a guest star for said episode would basically be spoiling it.

If that is correct, I'm pretty sure we should have the guest star currently listed on "Return of the Masks: Groups A & B" removed. (And if that's actually fine/correct, then I guess everyone else should be added in?...)


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
On another subject- how exactly are competition/game shows/guessing shows handled? Like The Masked Singer- I'd assume since the point of it is to guess who is under each mask, adding whoever is revealed as a guest star for said episode would basically be spoiling it.

If that is correct, I'm pretty sure we should have the guest star currently listed on "Return of the Masks: Groups A & B" removed. (And if that's actually fine/correct, then I guess everyone else should be added in?...)

I think this was never discussed before, I would recommend that you open a new thread for this :)



Aidan wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
On another subject- how exactly are competition/game shows/guessing shows handled? Like The Masked Singer- I'd assume since the point of it is to guess who is under each mask, adding whoever is revealed as a guest star for said episode would basically be spoiling it.

If that is correct, I'm pretty sure we should have the guest star currently listed on "Return of the Masks: Groups A & B" removed. (And if that's actually fine/correct, then I guess everyone else should be added in?...)

If they're credited on the episode there's no reason not to add them. 

We might not have discussed it specifically for The Masked Singer but I'm pretty sure spoilers through guest cast have been discussed before and that it's pretty much set in stone that people shouldn't be reading the episode pages if they dont want spoilers.


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Aidan wrote:
If they're credited on the episode there's no reason not to add them. 

We might not have discussed it specifically for The Masked Singer but I'm pretty sure spoilers through guest cast have been discussed before and that it's pretty much set in stone that people shouldn't be reading the episode pages if they dont want spoilers.

That is true, but if they are not credited in the episode or credited as "mystery", then we should not add the real names :)

Pushkareva_M wrote 5 years ago: 1

Delete this show. Thanks.

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/45698/bolsoj-vypusk


TonyMayhew wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Magitroopa wrote:
On another subject- how exactly are competition/game shows/guessing shows handled? Like The Masked Singer- I'd assume since the point of it is to guess who is under each mask, adding whoever is revealed as a guest star for said episode would basically be spoiling it.

If that is correct, I'm pretty sure we should have the guest star currently listed on "Return of the Masks: Groups A & B" removed. (And if that's actually fine/correct, then I guess everyone else should be added in?...)

Similar to Through the Keyhole where the panel have to guess the celebrity homes featured, we don't list the celebrities other than the guest panelists.


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Pushkareva_M wrote:
Delete this show. Thanks.

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/45698/bolsoj-vypusk

why do you want it to delete?

Pushkareva_M wrote 5 years ago: 1

@JuanArango wrote:
why do you want it to delete?

Because it is duplicated with another show


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Pushkareva_M wrote:
Because it is duplicated with another show

thx, it is scheduled for deletion now :)


Rickiesgal wrote 5 years ago: 1

@JuanArango wrote:
Should we remove all Drew Carey Shows from the franchise?

Well "the Drew Carey Show" is a completely unrelated sitcom. The others, I could go either way on really, though had it been me doing the listing I would not have connected them. I guess it depends how deep you want to go with it....

Wikapedia has them listed as related to who's line, but not that who's line is related to them; 

 All improv shows;

 Drew Carey hosted Green Screen and Improv-A-Ganza as well as original US run of who's line;

 all shows shared some cast members. 

 


kevin87 wrote 5 years ago: 1

@Rickiesgal wrote:
Well "the Drew Carey Show" is a completely unrelated sitcom. The others, I could go either way on really, though had it been me doing the listing I would not have connected them. I guess it depends how deep you want to go with it....

Wikapedia has them listed as related to who's line, but not that who's line is related to them; 

 All improv shows;

 Drew Carey hosted Green Screen and Improv-A-Ganza as well as original US run of who's line;

 all shows shared some cast members. 

 

I don't see that any different than linking Late Night with Conan O'Brien to Conan, or The Office and The Mindy Project, which we wouldn't do. They're the same actors in the same type of show, but they're not related shows. If we had a "similar shows worth noting" section, then sure, but they're different shows in the same genre showcasing the same talent.

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