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Eurovision Song Contest

DannyHughes wrote 7 years ago: 1

Hi all

Recently the Eurovision Song Contest has disappeared from the site. It used to be available here: http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/4353

I did a search of the forums for Eurovision but can't see any reason it was removed. The UK selection show "Eurovision: You Decide" is still there but not the contest itself. There are no regional differences in the airing time of the show as it's broadcast live. Can someone help?



Aidan wrote 7 years ago: 1

We don't allow shows that are not tied to a single specific country/channel and are simultaneously aired in different countries.

Any national finales, etc would be fine, tho.

DannyHughes wrote 7 years ago: 1

That that seems a little odd, a TV Listings site not listing probably the most watched TV show in the world broadcast annually? Particularly in this day and age of interconnectedness, international shows and whatnot, isn't it fighting against the tide to stick to national TV programs and channels? If the problem is that a show needs to be tied to a channel, couldn't a "Various / International" option be created?

It's not a huge deal for me as there are only 3 main Eurovision events (2 semis and 1 final) so if it doesn't appear in the API it's not a huge hassle to create manually, just seems a weird one and it's likely there's an element to this that I'm not aware of yet.



Aidan wrote 7 years ago: 1

Yeah, it needs to be tied to a specific channel, and adding 50+ entries for the same show isn't really a viable option.

For the same reason we don't list international sporting events like The Olympics, Formula1, and so on.


gazza911 wrote 7 years ago: 1

Thomas wrote:
Even with that I would assume it is not possible as we have to add 50+ presenters as Main? :p

Depends on how exactly it's done, whether it's just the episodes, or if you can set everything else for each version

tnt wrote 7 years ago: 1

I still do not understand why Eurovision has been deleted. For the past couple of years they have live stream on YouTube, with their own presenters i.e. not country dependent.

deleted wrote 7 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
I still do not understand why Eurovision has been deleted. For the past couple of years they have live stream on YouTube, with their own presenters i.e. not country dependent.

Because this show broadcasts simultaneously in pretty much any European country at the exact same time. Indeed a livestream on Youtube may broadcast it too, but this would apply to winter olympics, olympics, football and more too..... (may not be on youtube, but there plenty of other platforms obviously)

tnt wrote 7 years ago: 1

Thomas wrote:
Because this show broadcasts simultaneously in pretty much any European country at the exact same time. Indeed a livestream on Youtube may broadcast it too, but this would apply to winter olympics, olympics, football and more too..... (may not be on youtube, but there plenty of other platforms obviously)

Yeah, but when each country have it's own broadcast (with their own presenters, adverts etc), and when all of the countries have exactly the same broadcast – it's not the same. I'm failing to understand how is it different from any TV show which is airing through several different time zones (like any US show for example).

And we don't have an "airtime" for YouTube shows anyway :)



Aidan wrote 7 years ago: 1

It's exactly the same, just different narrators. And for a majority, if not all countries, it airs on the government owned channels that don't have commercial breaks (BBC for UK, SVT for Sweden, NRK for Norway, and so on).

tnt wrote 7 years ago: 1

Aidan wrote:
It's exactly the same, just different narrators. And for a majority, if not all countries, it airs on the government owned channels that don't have commercial breaks (BBC for UK, SVT for Sweden, NRK for Norway, and so on).

The point is that for broadcast channels it's impossible to decide, which channel we would consider as "owning" to add to our records, since it's airing simultaneously on multiple different channels in multiple countries. But there's no such problem for the YouTube stream.


JuanArango wrote 7 years ago: 1

This is a difficult subject, from what I remember the decision on it came from TPTB :)

tnt wrote 7 years ago: 1

JuanArango wrote:
This is a difficult subject, from what I remember the decision on it came from TPTB :)

Yeah, I remember that :) But maybe such shows should be treated like Web Channel shows, not like a broadcast ones?



Aidan wrote 7 years ago: 1

Sounds like it could turn into a really messy precedence. Especially with sports.

deleted wrote 7 years ago: 1

I would suggest to not bother with it until alternate airing dates may be available. Would solve so many issues.

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