Animainiacs Season 1 should have 65 episodes, not 171

@Bah2o wrote:
Animainiacs Season 1 ends with "The Warners' 65th Anniversary Special" which should also be episode 65, not 171. 

Per Wikipedia 

Season 1 episodes range between one and five skits.

All of the mini-episodes are listed as their own episode for Season 1 with a runtime of 30 minutes each. The other seasons appear to be correct, but most Season 1 episodes should be changed from:

Ep1 "De-Zanitized"

Ep2 "The Monkey Song"

Ep2 "Nighty-Night Toon"

to:

Ep1 "De-Zanitize / The Monkey Song / Nighty-Night Toon"

(Or maybe use semicolons?)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Animaniacs_episodes

If those 3 parts have their own credit block we list them as separate episodes. I ma not familiar with the show, so we need to figure out if they have 3 credit blocks or just one.

Ok, yeah on second glance the rest of the seasons follow the same format (oops, I bet you see a lot of that).

I was rewatching episodes on Hulu which the has Episode 1 listed as "De-Zanitize / The Monkey Song / Nighty-Night Toon". Which made me curious. 

But the runtime of 30 minutes refers to all 3 skits during original airing together in one block on TV. Together on Hulu the episode is about 21 minutes. On their own De-Zanitize is about 11 minutes, The Monkey Song ~4 min, and Nighty-Night Toon ~3 min.

@Bah2o wrote:
Ok, yeah on second glance the rest of the seasons follow the same format (oops, I bet you see a lot of that).

I was rewatching episodes on Hulu which the has Episode 1 listed as "De-Zanitize / The Monkey Song / Nighty-Night Toon". Which made me curious. 

But the runtime of 30 minutes refers to all 3 skits during original airing together in one block on TV. Together on Hulu the episode is about 21 minutes. On their own De-Zanitize is about 11 minutes, The Monkey Song ~4 min, and Nighty-Night Toon ~3 min.

Well we always follow the first airing, we need to find out how it aired first, if it had 3 credit blocks or one credit for three episode segments.

@JuanArango wrote:
Well we always follow the first airing, we need to find out how it aired first, if it had 3 credit blocks or one credit for three episode segments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Animaniacs_episodes#Season_1_(1993%E2%80%9394)

According to this, each segment has a different writer and director, so it has to be split.

@kevin87 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Animaniacs_episodes#Season_1_(1993%E2%80%9394)

According to this, each segment has a different writer and director, so it has to be split.

:)

Ah ok, makes sense. Last part I'm trying to wrap my head around is runtime. The 3 I listed above aired during the same 30 minute time slot, so would they each stay listed as 30 minutes, regardless of having a shorter duration?

I ask because that significantly skews my time spent watching TV in Stats. 

@Bah2o wrote:
Ah ok, makes sense. Last part I'm trying to wrap my head around is runtime. The 3 I listed above aired during the same 30 minute time slot, so would they each stay listed as 30 minutes, regardless of having a shorter duration?

I ask because that significantly skews my time spent watching TV in Stats. 

Without really watching every episode and seeing how long each segment is, theoretically it'd be 10 minutes each instead of 30 which includes any commercials (30 ÷ 3 = 10) unless one is 15 minutes and one is 5 or something.

@kevin87 wrote:
Without really watching every episode and seeing how long each segment is, theoretically it'd be 10 minutes each instead of 30 which includes any commercials (30 ÷ 3 = 10) unless one is 15 minutes and one is 5 or something.

Right. So then based on TVmaze's policies for runtime meaning timeslot and not duration,nothing should be changed, correct? 

The time spent watching TV in Stats will just be a little inflated. 

@Bah2o wrote:
Right. So then based on TVmaze's policies for runtime meaning timeslot and not duration,nothing should be changed, correct? 

The time spent watching TV in Stats will just be a little inflated. 

The runtime should be changed to 10 minutes each, and then each segment should have an airtime in 10 minute intervals to accommodate the split. Unless they're not of equal runtime.

@kevin87 wrote:
The runtime should be changed to 10 minutes each, and then each segment should have an airtime in 10 minute intervals to accommodate the split. Unless they're not of equal runtime.

Segments are not of equal runtime as they were aired together in varying amounts (between 1 and 5 per timeslot), and range between 3 and 30 minutes.

The only place I was able to find the time for each of the segments was on Hulu while scrubbing through the combined episode. Everywhere else I've looked either groups segments together as 1 episode and reports 25-30 minute runtimes. Or lists them individually, but do not have the individual runtimes.

So since I have a new account and can't make a lot of edits, would it even be possible to verify runtimes if I changed them, or anyone else for that matter considering the circumstance? 

@Bah2o wrote:
Segments are not of equal runtime as they were aired together in varying amounts (between 1 and 5 per timeslot), and range between 3 and 30 minutes.

The only place I was able to find the time for each of the segments was on Hulu while scrubbing through the combined episode. Everywhere else I've looked either groups segments together as 1 episode and reports 25-30 minute runtimes. Or lists them individually, but do not have the individual runtimes.

So since I have a new account and can't make a lot of edits, would it even be possible to verify runtimes if I changed them, or anyone else for that matter considering the circumstance? 

The actual segment runtime isn't what should be the episode runtime, they also have to include the full runtime including commercials... so for example if a show is 20 minutes but runs for 30 because of commercials, the episode runtime is still 30. So I'm not sure what should be done for the each segment if they're not all the same length within each 30 minute block.

Ok, yeah it was sounding like that would be the case. I'll leave it for some else haha.

Thanks!

@Bah2o wrote:
Ok, yeah it was sounding like that would be the case. I'll leave it for some else haha.

Thanks!

So I'm doing a few multi-segment shows, but the segments are all about the same length, it's relatively easy to just divide by 2 or 3.

For Animainacs (1993) if you want hyper accuracy I would suggest basically taking the ad time and splitting it as evenly if possible over the segments, in other words:

 (30 - (sum of time for segments that originally aired for that episode)) / number of segments = aggregate ad time to split over segments.

If it doesn't split evenly... for example you have 6 minutes of ads, but 4 segments... give the shortest segments the shortest ad time... like you're dealing cards almost. So the 2 shortest segments would get +1 min of ad time, and the two longest would get +2 min of ad time.

I would say that even if you don't factor for segment length and do a 30 / # of episode's segments, the metadata would be in a better place as those watching wouldn't have 30 watched minutes for each 2 min song or what have you.

@snarfel wrote:
So I'm doing a few multi-segment shows, but the segments are all about the same length, it's relatively easy to just divide by 2 or 3.

For Animainacs (1993) if you want hyper accuracy I would suggest basically taking the ad time and splitting it as evenly if possible over the segments, in other words:

 (30 - (sum of time for segments that originally aired for that episode)) / number of segments = aggregate ad time to split over segments.

If it doesn't split evenly... for example you have 6 minutes of ads, but 4 segments... give the shortest segments the shortest ad time... like you're dealing cards almost. So the 2 shortest segments would get +1 min of ad time, and the two longest would get +2 min of ad time.

 

I would say that even if you don't factor for segment length and do a 30 / # of episode's segments, the metadata would be in a better place as those watching wouldn't have 30 watched minutes for each 2 min song or what have you.

If the program block is 30 minutes and there are two segments, we just use 15 minutes for each segment :)