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But the character was originally Vanya, and since the change happens after 2 seasons and will likely be some kind of plotline, putting it as Viktor (which is the spelling Elliot and TUA used) is a spoiler for anybody who is just starting the series, which is why Viktor was added as an AKA instead. It's a similar situation to when somebody gets a superhero alias or gets married, or just has a change in name for whatever reason, putting those things would be a spoiler. I already asked in the forums a few days ago.

https://www.tvmaze.com/threads/2677/edit-requests?page=1116#76334

Whups, didn't catch the spelling, I appreciate that :)

I'd argue that we'd be misgendering the character if we did that. Wouldn't Vanya be more appropriate for the aka? No matter how we try, there will always be some spoilers in the show. Would a compromise of Vanya/Viktor be okay?

Maybe, but she was Vanya before he was Viktor. And that's just a show specific thing because of Elliot Page. I see it like the stuff that happens after an initial show announcement shouldn't be just plastered everywhere to avoid giving away more than we would need to. If it was like an alternate reality or something and it was always Viktor (which then we'd have to split it into a separate entry), or he was Viktor first and Vanya was a flashback thing like Laverne Cox's character in Orange is the New Black, that'd be different. Or if it was real people not just TV characters where the change is a story device. 

There's a good thought, why not make Viktor a new character?

I think that might go against policy since they're the same person, same history and all.

Respectfully, I think this isn't the right way to go. Should I have gone to the mods about changing Vanyas name? Yes, in hindsight it's the obvious thing. But keeping Viktor Hargreeves from existing on the official page will make trans viewers and TV Maze users feel isolated and upset. It certainly makes me disappointed and upset, and I'm cis, so I can't imagine how a transgender person would feel. This is too important to just let be.

I was just going by what they originally said in the press release

“Mickey Mouse Funhouse” debuts with a primetime special “Mickey the Brave!” on FRIDAY, JULY 16, on Disney Junior (7:30 p.m. EDT/PDT), followed by the series premiere FRIDAY, AUG. 20, on both Disney Channel and Disney Junior (8:00 a.m. EDT/PDT).

Most network websites will call a special a normal episode anyway, they don't have a way to put them in order without giving them a number. Same thing happened with the Raven's Home/BUNK'D crossover, it was a special and promoted as such on their press site but DisneyNow calls it episode 1 of Raven's Home because they can't handle marking it as a special.

The Raven's home episode was considered a special on the dgepress.com web site whereas this show considers it episode 101. Here is the proof: https://www.dgepress.com/disneychannel/shows/ravens-home/episodes/raven-about-bunkd-1/

Also DisneyNow is the network to premiere the most episodes not Disney Junior so it's a moot point if it's a special on Disney Junior because on DisneyNow it is just a regular episode.

That's my point though, even if DisneyNow says it's episode 1 then that's just because they aren't able to mark them as a special, US sites don't know what to do, so they're labelled with an episode number, like they do with Raven's Home/Bunk'd. The said Mickey Mouse Funhouse episode entry wasn't available on the press site yet though when the press release said it was a special, so that's just what I went with based on their wording.

I was under the impression that BBC doesn't have ads, which is why some start at odd time (Graham Norton at 22:45 for example), so I thought that that's when the show ended.

Yes, the BBC do have odd running times occasionally. Like with Graham Norton. His show normally has a 50 minute slot, where the actual episode length is usually between 45 / 48 minutes. 

Although the BBC do not have commercial adverts, they do have a few minutes between programs to promote their other shows :)

I asked that myself before, since Universal owns USA and Peacock, but was told since they moved Psych 2 off USA in favor of Peacock, we had to leave the airdate blank since it's not going to be on USA and it's a special tv movie not a new season, so the majority of premiere date policy would prevent changing the whole show to Peacock instead of USA.

Phew, glad I asked - that one is over my head. Thanks for the explanation although I gotta admit a blank airdate will forever drive me crazy seeing as it aired. Did you watch and did you like it? It felt so comfortable watching those guys again and hearing that opening theme song! Thanks again, Kevin.

Yeah the blank airdate is weird, but maybe if they ever incorporate different air dates for multiple countries, we can use it for stuff like this. I saw that somebody had added a line at the end of the episode description saying the Peacock premiere date at least lol I haven't seen it yet myself, my TV must not be new enough to download apps other than the factory default ones and it's not available on Roku, so I'll have to wait. I was going to use my trial to watch it because I loved the show.

I added the first episode of the season when I saw it in the Disney programing release schedule for August, then noticed somebody split it into two parts and added more so I checked DisneyNOW and they were all already available, so I changed the channel to DisneyNOW and updated the official site link.

Doing a little more research now, it seems the other episodes didn't start airing on TV until September 7th, and there are 10 more episodes released on DisneyNOW on September 2nd.

Right, so looks like we'll need to add those remaining episodes with an airdate of September 2nd then.

Thanks for your help.