I agree but http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/997/catfish-the-tv-sho... is defo not family I'd not sit down to watch that with the kids lol
Alastor wrote:
I agree but http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/997/catfish-the-tv-sho... is defo not family I'd not sit down to watch that with the kids lol
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TomSouthwell wrote:
Fixed
Any chance we can please have cooking removed from http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1745/young-hungry it is what it is not cooking
ty
Alastor wrote:
Any chance we can please have cooking removed from http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1745/young-hungry it is what it is not cooking
ty
it is removed :)
JuanArango wrote:
it is removed :)
Thanks very much indeed :)
Alastor wrote:
Any chance we can please have cooking removed from http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1745/young-hungry it is what it is not cooking
ty
It seems to have a lot to do with cooking: why wouldn't it be Cooking?
One of the show summaries say, "Fans get a second look at the food, the fights, the romance and every last insult that made them fall in love." It seems like food and cooking play a pretty significant role in the show.
Or can only reality shows be Cooking genre?
The show isn't based around cooking tho, which is what is causing the confusion.
Is like saying 2 Broke Girls should have cooking as a genre as well, just because it's mainly set in a diner and the 2 girls run a muffin business. It definately isn't classed as a cookery show by anyone I know that watches it :)
I don't know if I would qualify it as a cooking show. The show is a sit-com. Because the sit-com is set in a restaurant environment wouldn't put it in the same genre as Rachael Ray or Giada cooking shows.
eherberg wrote:
I don't know if I would qualify it as a cooking show. The show is a sit-com. Because the sit-com is set in a restaurant environment wouldn't put it in the same genre as Rachael Ray or Giada cooking shows.
I agree that this should not have cooking as genre :)
I'm not familiar with Two Broke Girls. However, judging from the show description, and even the show image, the focus of Young & Hungry would seem to be... well, cooking. Several of the episode summaries focus on the food as a seemingly integral part of the show. Presumably whoever add the genre in the first place thought so.
If the show doesn't fit the definition of the Cooking genre, I guess the question would be... what is the definition? For instance, can only reality shows be Cooking?
As Thomas noted a while back:
"Unless there's no explanation given for genres in our FAQ, people will always be using genres to their own point of view. Some see family as a genre, some as rating. It will be an endless discussion if not explained indeed."
Shows about families are apparently not Family genre, and shows that heavily feature cooking aren't Cooking genre.
Gadfly wrote:
It seems to have a lot to do with cooking: why wouldn't it be Cooking?
One of the show summaries say, "Fans get a second look at the food, the fights, the romance and every last insult that made them fall in love." It seems like food and cooking play a pretty significant role in the show.
Or can only reality shows be Cooking genre?
It's not a cooking show so what she cooks is she teaching you the audience to cook or is she competing against others like in Masterchef?
Nope.
Alastor wrote:
It's not a cooking show so what she cooks is she teaching you the audience to cook or is she competing against others like in Masterchef?
Nope.
But it's a genre. You either could see cooking as a genre or a classification.
Alastor wrote:
It's not a cooking show so what she cooks is she teaching you the audience to cook or is she competing against others like in Masterchef?
Nope.
That's interesting, but it has no more (or less) meaning than someone saying, "It is a cooking show because the main character cooks, and the focus is on cooking."
The above is a definition of "Cooking" genre. The question is, is it TVMaze's definition of "Cooking"?
And if it is, where do I find it?
Thomas wrote:
But it's a genre. You either could see cooking as a genre or a classification.
I'm... not sure what the difference is between a genre and a classification, either.
To take another example, here's a new show that was just added. It sure seems like Cooking to me. But... it is? Isn't? I have no idea now. Because it's Scripted, it can't be Cooking? Only reality/competition shows can be Cooking? What?
Is House a Medical genre show, because it deals with Medical as much as the two scripted cooking shows cited above deal with Cooking?
(Then again, House is listed as Mystery. Which... huh? Yes, they deal with medical "mysteries," but pretty much every medical show does. They're often pretty thrilling medical mysteries: does that make House a Thriller? Columbo is a Mystery. Castle is a Mystery. Sherlock is a mystery. House? Not so much. So isn't Mystery + Medical redundant?)
IMO, Reality pretty well covers cooking competition shows as Alastor describes. So I'd be happy with Cooking being dropped, along with DIY, History, and Travel. But it really depends on what you want Genres to do, and how you define them.
I suppose the motto of the story is: Don't add anything unless you can explain it. :)
Actually, I guess my overall sentiment is that... well, it's open-edit. So people are going to make edits you don't like, and add and delete things that you don't agree with. Someone could go back and make it Cooking today, or tomorrow, or in a week. (Until folks hit the three-edit limit, if we haven't already and if it applies here.)
As long as the tool is there, and the genre isn't defined (and even if it is)... someone will eventually use it for the show in question. Since the site is open-edit, and someone went there and put in the work to add it... why destroy their work?
Alastor wrote:
That is one thing I believe is badly wrong here Open Edit. This will make it end up like the TVDB tagged very very badly by asshats.
In my opinion you are over thinking things and the way you are coming at it we may as well tag all shows with every damn tag there is because I am sure we could find a reason to use each and every tag for each and every show. There is being basically inteliigent and there is being stupid.
You may as well tag Masterchef as Action and Adventure as I am sure it's an adventure for the guys of the show with lots of action, doh. See where I am going here?
I'm not sure where you're quoting from, or why you're quoting yourself. But assuming the entire thing was meant to be a "regular" post...
If you have a problem with Open Edit, you'd have to take it up with the full staff. However, I don't think it's going anywhere.
I'd rather overthink things than underthink them. :) However, differentiating different type of shows as Cooking/Non-Cooking genre, when they all have cooking as the main focus of them seems... more like overthinking than underthinking. Regardless, as far as I can tell, the system worked here. People changed it to what they thought it should be, it got changed back, it got changed back again. And then... staff had to change it because it was locked? I'm not sure on that part or not.
*shrug* The problem is that genres are a controversial subject. And it's all pretty much based on opinion. So naturally, not everyone's opinion is the same.
Regardless, I don't think the person who added Cooking as a genre (disclaimer: it wasn't me) is an "asshat."
So, should Home Improvement be classed as DIY?
Although it'd prolly be highly dangerous to follow any of Tim Allen's "Tips", technically, it is a DIY based comedy series, isn't it? :)
TonyMayhew wrote:
So, should Home Improvement be classed as DIY?
Although it'd prolly be highly dangerous to follow any of Tim Allen's "Tips", technically, it is a DIY based comedy series, isn't it? :)
hehe, good point :)
Gadfly wrote:
I'm not sure where you're quoting from, or why you're quoting yourself. But assuming the entire thing was meant to be a "regular" post...
If you have a problem with Open Edit, you'd have to take it up with the full staff. However, I don't think it's going anywhere.
I'd rather overthink things than underthink them. :) However, differentiating different type of shows as Cooking/Non-Cooking genre, when they all have cooking as the main focus of them seems... more like overthinking than underthinking. Regardless, as far as I can tell, the system worked here. People changed it to what they thought it should be, it got changed back, it got changed back again. And then... staff had to change it because it was locked? I'm not sure on that part or not.
*shrug* The problem is that genres are a controversial subject. And it's all pretty much based on opinion. So naturally, not everyone's opinion is the same.
Regardless, I don't think the person who added Cooking as a genre (disclaimer: it wasn't me) is an "asshat."
Meh