There are only 4 choices at episode level why is that anyways?
Writer
Director
Story
Teleplay
They may be the most common crew types but does that no other crew can ever be added? Or does the person in question who was an Executive Producer for only 1 single episode either get added to the entire series crew or do we just forget about them altogether because no one here cares?
Or are you adding additional crew types when we request one?
JAGUARDOG wrote:
There are only 4 choices at episode level why is that anyways?
Writer
Director
Story
Teleplay
They may be the most common crew types but does that no other crew can ever be added? Or does the person in question who was an Executive Producer for only 1 single episode either get added to the entire series crew or do we just forget about them altogether because no one here cares?
Or are you adding additional crew types when we request one?
you add crew to a single episodes under "Crew Appearances". There you can add the producer, executive producer and so on :)
JuanArango wrote:
you add crew to a single episodes under "Crew Appearances". There you can add the producer, executive producer and so on :)
Has anyone on the site ever tried to use this to even see if it works because it does not allow me to add the only choice is to SAVE but there is nothing to save? Has it ever worked, was it even ever tested but anyone?
Manage A Ballerina's Tale Crew Appearances
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JAGUARDOG wrote:
Has anyone on the site ever tried to use this to even see if it works because it does not allow me to add the only choice is to SAVE but there is nothing to save? Has it ever worked, was it even ever tested but anyone?
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It's worked for me since I started on the site. Never had any problems with it. Here's one example of someone else adding it, so presumably other people don't have issues, either.
http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/994185/sleepy-hollow-4x03-heads-of-state/crewappearances
Gadfly wrote:
It's worked for me since I started on the site. Never had any problems with it. Here's one example of someone else adding it, so presumably other people don't have issues, either.
http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/994185/sleepy-hollow-4x03-heads-of-state/crewappearances
OK, thanks for proving it works. However it does not work for me!
Maybe those others had a little access which I do not have any access at all, None is that it?
Allow me to clarify.
It's a two step process. First, you have to create a crew entry for that person & crew type on the show itself. After that, you can use crew appearances to indicate the specific episodes where that person is credited.
Because the show you mention doesn't have any crew entries on the show level yet (http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3692/independent-lens/crew), it's not possible to add a crew appearance either.
david wrote:
Allow me to clarify.
It's a two step process. First, you have to create a crew entry for that person & crew type on the show itself. After that, you can use crew appearances to indicate the specific episodes where that person is credited.
Because the show you mention doesn't have any crew entries on the show level yet (http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3692/independent-lens/crew), it's not possible to add a crew appearance either.
But I do not have any regular crew to add just this 1 person who was an Exec Producer for 1 episode. How about you add them in for me please?
Independent Lens - A Ballerina's Tale (2016) ... (executive producer) - Misty Copeland - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4341891/?ref_=fn_nm_nm_1
Then I will add in her photo and information.
I believe what JAGUARDOG is saying is:
As Misty Copeland was only an executive producer for a single episode, it should be treated as Guest Crew.
However Executive Producer is not one of the available options for Guest Crew.
The alternative is to have them as Main Crew, despite them only being Executive Producer for that single episode.
Indeed, executive producer doesn't exist as "guest crew". Even if they are only EP on a single episode, the proper way is to add them as (show) Crew then add the Crew Appearance to the episode.
david wrote:
Indeed, executive producer doesn't exist as "guest crew". Even if they are only EP on a single episode, the proper way is to add them as (show) Crew then add the Crew Appearance to the episode.
Well I did it that way however you may consider for the future changing that way of having to do it and allowing individual crew be added to single episodes. Otherwise it looks like she is an overall EP when she was not! Wouldn't that be easier to allow other crew type then just the 4 you have?
What do you think is the difference between an "overall EP" and this case?
david wrote:
What do you think is the difference between an "overall EP" and this case?
Also considering that there's 18 seasons x ~20 episodes ~= 360 episodes you could end up having hundreds of Main Crew even though the actual Main Crew count should be much less.
JAGUARDOG wrote:
Well I did it that way however you may consider for the future changing that way of having to do it and allowing individual crew be added to single episodes. Otherwise it looks like she is an overall EP when she was not! Wouldn't that be easier to allow other crew type then just the 4 you have?
She is listed on her personal page as an Executive Producer for one episode of this particular show which is correct so I'm not sure what the problem/confusion is.
Because an Executive Producer is usually with the show for a long period, we chose to (primarily) add it on the show level instead of on the episode level. For the odd case where almost every episode has a different EP the crew list will be pretty large indeed, but there's no way around that. :)
david wrote:
Because an Executive Producer is usually with the show for a long period, we chose to (primarily) add it on the show level instead of on the episode level.
Why can't it be on both I don't understand what problem that would cause?
I imagine that the "confusion" is if someone looks on the show crew page and sees her name, and thinks that means she's an EP for the entire show.
Given the episode doesn't have even 5 views at IMDB, it doesn't seem like that many people would be looking at that particular episode or show to check the show crew, though.
How many people worked on that "episode" only that would be listed as Guest Crew? If it has a unique EP, it probably has unique crew in other regards. IMDB doesn't list Carlson as an EP, so presumably there's some other source that lists her and maybe others.
For another, David would then have to recode the guest crew-displaying section of the main episode page for what is basically one exception. Unless there are a lot more exceptions...?
Like David says, that's how it goes when you have a show that is a collection of documentaries, each one probably done by a different production crew. The confusion only seems to arise on the show's main crew page... and how many users are looking at that particular show's main crew page?
That said, adding something to the Show Crew page showing how many episodes a particular crew member is marked down for might help with any confusion.
i.e., you go to the Independent Lens show crew page, and instead of saying "Misty Copeland", it says "Misty Copeland (1 episode)". That would probably be easier to code, although it would still take time that David might not have.
That's how IMDB does it, and Jaguardog cites IMDB as a source above. And there are plenty of cases when an EP is only in one episode and then is never heard from again. In the pilot episode of many shows, to give one common example.
