Can't edit tags anymore?

Previous discussion where this was broken and then later fixed.. but now I can't set tags at all.

https://www.tvmaze.com/threads/2976/unable-to-set-arbitrary-tags-on-shows-since-redesign

Read the article on homepage. https://www.tvmaze.com/blogs/35/improvements-for-show-tags

This is very inconvenient for me, and extremely well hidden by the clutter from Ads elements. I used to edit the tags from the Follows page. Often I need to update the tags for several shows at a time, but now I'll need to do this from each shows main page, which are rarely visited after an initial follow.

I have a difficult time believing this was tested by any frequent user of this site.

I agree it would be nice to be able to edit from either place. It may be a software limitation, not sure.

Indeed, but it is almost as if no consideration was made for existing users of this feature. I was left confused and completely dumbfounded. I don't often check the homepage, and when I do, the blog is pretty far down on the page. It's not somewhere I'm trained to go and look for answers.

I'm sorry, but this is blatantly user hostile. I am supposed to be encouraged to sign up for Premium?

https://imgur.com/a/1tKfkQW

We announced the new tag management in our blog, on the forums, and on all of our social channels. If none of those reach you, I'm not sure what would. Thanks for the feedback though, as it's good to know that some users will just not be reading our announcements.

Managing tags from the "follows" page was removed indeed, because that implementation is no longer compatible with the new system. (The old modal dialog showed all of your tags, the new one only shows the one you're adding). If there's a lot of interest in bulk tag management we can look into this though, so keep the feedback coming.

The imgur link you posted doesn't work ("over capacity") so I can only read the descriptions, but either way we definitely like to convert adblocking users to a premium subscription. If a visitor block our ads and doesn't use premium, their visits only cost us money without bringing in any revenue.

brynet wrote:
Indeed, but it is almost as if no consideration was made for existing users of this feature. I was left confused and completely dumbfounded. I don't often check the homepage, and when I do, the blog is pretty far down on the page. It's not somewhere I'm trained to go and look for answers.

Hi Brynet,

Thanks for voicing your concerns. The reason why we post blogs is not only to announce new features but to get more feedback from a larger userbase after testing. So we appreciate the effort of those who take the time to do it.
I think you've been a member long enough to know that we do our best to listen to everyone's requests, concerns and to find a balance that works for everyone.
We can only do this if we get enough feedback. At the moment some features are being re-aligned and updated. This is one of them.
We've already discussed a solution internally where you'll be able to manage your tags from this page the same way it's now possible in the show pages.

brynet wrote:
I'm sorry, but this is blatantly user hostile. I am supposed to be encouraged to sign up for Premium?

https://imgur.com/a/1tKfkQW

If this looks hostile, it's not deliberate.
Let me ask you this since you've brought it up: What would encourage you to sign up for Premium?

Thank-you Jan,

If this looks hostile, it's not deliberate.

Sorry that you cannot see it, I guess this is something you would be comfortable seeing on a daily basis. I personally am not sure this encourages spending.

I'm not sure anything would at this point, I was one of the early users that joined when MyEpisodes was experiencing frequent trouble and the community was desperate for a working alternative, and you guys showed up. That site worked on a donation system and contained no Ads. Like your site was presented, at least initially. The continued disruption of existing working features with no migration path coupled with the increasing redirection of users to pages with Ads me more concerned about my ability to use this site, and to seek a way to export my data in the future.

brynet wrote:
Thank-you Jan,

Sorry that you cannot see it, I guess this is something you would be comfortable seeing on a daily basis. I personally am not sure this encourages spending.

The ads are shown by Google AdSense. This article could shed a light on the reasons you seeing this kind of ads:
https://privacy.google.com/how-ads-work.html
We try to show you useful ads by using data collected from your devices, including your searches and location, websites and apps you have used, videos and ads you have seen, and personal information you have given us, such as your age range, gender, and topics of interest.

tnt wrote:
The ads are shown by Google AdSense. This article could shed a light on the reasons you seeing this kind of ads:
https://privacy.google.com/how-ads-work.html
We try to show you useful ads by using data collected from your devices, including your searches and location, websites and apps you have used, videos and ads you have seen, and personal information you have given us, such as your age range, gender, and topics of interest.

I've opted out of that sort of collection for many years. But thank you for your attempt at shaming me.

brynet wrote:
I've opted out of that sort of collection for many years. But thank you for your attempt at shaming me.

I'm not trying anything, except explaining how the things are working. Google user tracking is not among the things that you could simply opt out of. Unless you take active measures, using different kinds of script blockers. BTW, by clicking on the small cross in the top right corner of the ad and selecting "Ad was inappropriate" you cold make adsense show you less of this kind of ads, occasionally.

brynet wrote:
I've opted out of that sort of collection for many years. But thank you for your attempt at shaming me.

Have you thought about that running tvmaze is not free and costs money? With premium users or with ads (for non premium users) tvmaze is trying to generate money to pay the costs.

Have you thought that users may have more value than how much money they or may not make you? I've been a member since 2015 and have referred friends to this site over the years, who might have potentially paid for Premium. Now maybe I'll be thinking twice.

brynet wrote:
Have you thought that users may have more value than how much money they or may not make you? I've been a member since 2015 and have referred friends to this site over the years, who might have potentially paid for Premium. Now maybe I'll be thinking twice.

You could start contributing. If you reach Trusted Contributor level, you'll get Bronze premium level for free. If you'd start doing it back then, you'd already had your premium benefits :)

tnt wrote:
You could start contributing. If you reach Trusted Contributor level, you'll get Bronze premium level for free. If you'd start doing it back then, you'd already had your premium benefits :)

There you go shaming users again. I'm done with this. This is clearly my fault, I understand. No problem.

Hi brynet,

Thank you again for the feedback in your initial post. As i've stated. We already have a solution planned. We'll post an announcement when it has been deployed.

Should you have any other feedback you'd like to give, you're welcome to open a new thread.

Best,

Jan

We've now added the new tag management system to the follows page as well, see https://www.tvmaze.com/blogs/36/tv-show-tags-update.

If anyone wants to talk about ads, premium, the weather, or something else that's completely unrelated to tags - please open a new thread ;-)

makes it a lot easier, thank you!