I have noticed that there are rating votes for episodes that haven't even been aired yet, always skewing the total.
I'm surprised they haven't coded the site to not allow any votes until the episodes actually air.
@Athanatos wrote:
I have noticed that there are rating votes for episodes that haven't even been aired yet, always skewing the total.I'm surprised they haven't coded the site to not allow any votes until the episodes actually air.
the reason we allow voting before is that some people have access to screeners.
@JuanArango wrote:
the reason we allow voting before is that some people have access to screeners.
this is a very weak excuse. since most of those early votes are either 10 or 1 it has nothing to do with screeners, but rather with praise/hate voting.
tbh I'd rather lost 1-2 votes from those alleged "people with access to screeners" (I doubt there's more than a few if they exist at all) in favor of preventing fake votes weeks in advance.
people with access to screeners may as well vote after the linear premiere.
People having early access, reviewers and such, tend to have access days earlier, not weeks and months too.
I agree that we should not enable voting before release, I was just giving an explanation :)
It's not just about screeners, there are a bunch of other legitimate reasons for someone to have access to the epsisode before the primary release airdate/timestamp. Think season consistency policy, airdate owner policy, global web channel shows, episodes that didn't have the airtime set, etc. So blocking voting until after we consider the episode aired would also block these legitimate scenarios. Is the issue really big enough to be worth these tradeoffs? Would it even make a difference at all - if we have people that cast bullshit votes, wouldn't they do so all the same once the episodes did actually air?
I think we could probably make it smarter:
Airdate Owner / Season consistency Policy - Check if it's aired on an alternate episode
Airdate not set - Allow if the show's status is Ended
Otherwise, allow a certain period of time for screeners (potentially on a whitelisted network basis).
However, as david has said, it would probably wouldn't have much of an effect - if we didn't take into account screeners/festivals it would be better (as at least even if occurs after release date, you'll have other ratings then).
Well, it's not an actual problem, it just compromising the credibility of the voting system. I remember there were concerns about how to engage people to vote more. In my opinion, this whole situation makes people voting less. When you see the episode which supposed to air in a few weeks or months even, and it already has a 1-star (or 10-star, or whatever) rating, the only thing which came to your mind is that the whole rating system is rigged.
https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1816549/lucifer-5x16-a-chance-at-a-happy-ending
Yep. Also Show Voting. NCIS: Hawai'i has 7 votes for a net of 8.9 and it doesn't even have a premier date yet. Just "later in the season". How does that work?