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tnt posted 5 years ago

I'm curious, what made you think that it's a good idea to replace a customly selected and grabbed episode snapshots with some generic images from Netflix (which have a wrong dimensions btw)? 


bungle posted 5 years ago
actually screens I uploaded for that show were in 1920x1080p and from the bbc site not Netflix. they also were not in the gallery already so yes i thought it to be a good idea, something wrong with that?
tnt posted 5 years ago

i was not asking why you uploaded them in the first place, my question is what was the reason to replace existing main episode images? and btw, they don't look like screencaps, more like a promo photos (which is normal for bbc, but against tvmaze policy).


bungle posted 5 years ago
because they're more colourful idk, why not? nobody saying the first images always have to be the one's set as main. and you're seriously telling me of all the dull, grey images in this gallery it's the last one you have an issue with calling it generic https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1519247/bodyguard-1x06-episode-6/gallery sorry but I just don't get where you're coming from?
tnt posted 5 years ago

i have an issue with disregarding time and effort people put to grab images from an actual episode. "grey and dull" is exactly how the show look like. if you want to improve — get the copy of an episode and grab the "colorful" images of better quality than existing, it is allowed to replace any image with the same composition but better quality/resolution.

all of the existing images meet the policy requirements, so there's no reason to replace any of them. 


bungle posted 5 years ago
like you did with the screens on that Malcolm x show..it's fine to disregard people's time and effort but only if your name's tnt? drop me out mate, and if you gonna nit-pick about things please come with something more worthwhile next time.

bungle posted 5 years ago
its still time and effort I put in to grab them, which according to you is the problem you have. a double standard for you to do that but you call me out for doing the exact same thing. :P

JuanArango posted 5 years ago

ok guys, let us be civil here, everyone on this site makes mistakes from time to time. tnt is correct that the screencaps should be the highest resolution available and the minimum standard for new shows is 720p. so replacing 300px images with high resolution ones is fine. bungle is correct that not the first image needs to be the one that fills the main image spot, there is no rule or policy about this. This here is our hobby and we should have fun doing it, fighting over this is not fun, so you both please simmer down a bit and have a beer, that is what I will do now :)


bungle posted 5 years ago
tell that to the person nitpicking. I just mind my own business around here. :)
tnt posted 5 years ago

your images doesn't met the policy requirements.

https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/47/episode-and-character-screencaps

Episode screencaps or character images can be taken from official websites, provided they meet the policy's episode gallery requirements.
In this case the highest available resolution has to be used.

highest available resolution for netflix stills is 1080p. in any case stills shouldn't be less than 720p.

So it's far from "exact same thing". Deleting invalid (per policy) images is not the same as replacing valid images simply because you don't like them. 


bungle posted 5 years ago
you still disregarded other people's time and effort though? stop swerving the point
tnt posted 5 years ago

if you'd bother to read and follow the policy, you won't be wasting your time and effort on something which is not allowed to upload in the first place. 

needless to say that deleting invalid stuff is part of "safeguarding the correctness of our data", which is literally curating contributor's job description https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/10/user-permissions

and since you remembered "malcolm x" need i also remind you, that shows should not be added with both network and web channel, unless they are simulcasted on both? and of course finding the correct premiere airdates take a bit more time and effort, then simply importing whatever tvdb offers, but at least they should be from the main network, set for the show, not a binge release from netflix.


bungle posted 5 years ago
what have I uploaded which was not allowed to be?
tnt posted 5 years ago

the small netflix images from "malcolm x" you mentioned above. i've explained, why they were deleted, with direct quotes from the policy which are not allowing to upload such images. shall i elaborate further?


bungle posted 5 years ago
they were official images from the Netflix site, so what they were a little small - as there were no images uploaded they seem fine at the time. its great that you uploaded the exact same images in a higher resolution like minutes afterwards. but the point here being I put time and effort into them and nobody heard me nitpicking about it.
tnt posted 5 years ago

you really don't see a difference, do you? 

you uploaded something you shouldn't have in the first place, and generously "not nipticking" when it's deleted according to policy. well, you free to "niptick" the next time, we'll see how far that will get you.

follow the policy and don't mess with other people's work — and i promise you, you won't hear from me again. this is as much as we could ask from anyone.


bungle posted 5 years ago
why it shouldn't have been uploaded in the first place.. because you didn't like them? cas I didn't hear anyone else complaining. so if that's the case your right I don't see a difference, do you? also don't be acting like I messed with other people's work like you did because I didn't delete anything. I just set some the official screens as main, not the ugly, bordered, grey looking screens that were already present which is what you had a problem with.
tnt posted 5 years ago

because the policy doesn't allow microscopic shitty images to be uploaded anymore. is that simple enough?
i don't care about them, i don't like them in high resolution either. but at least in high resolution they do not contradict the policy. my personal opinion in this case doesn't matter at all. so is yours, or anyone's, besides jan and david for obvious reasons. only a policy violation grants you a right to do something with existing data, submitted by somebody else. in all other cases, when you think something shouldn't be here because you don't like it, or you have some other problems with it, you contact one of the curating or head contributors, and they will decide what to do with it. or better just mind your own contributions, there's a space for improvement there.

enough with that. i generally don't care what others do, as long as they follow the policy and don't mess with other people's work. so keep that in mind and good luck.

tnt posted 5 years ago

i suppose the policy either don't matter to you or you prefer to deliberately ignore it.

let me ask you this: in your opinion, does episode images you've uploaded to https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/46282/gamebros are valid according to TVmaze policy?


bungle posted 5 years ago
if I knew how to get the full res screens for Netflix I woulda done so. but if they are really not to your liking, go ahead and replace them and delete the dupes afterwards, its not brain surgery.

bungle posted 5 years ago

I forgot to mention you'll prob need to use a cached page since its not up on Netflix anymore: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fPkKAOzFudAJ:https://www.netflix.com/pt/title/80243732+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk


JuanArango posted 5 years ago

We got a guide how to get the best possible images from websites :) We all need to follow it, we put a lot of work into the new image policy, so let us please all follow it :)


bungle posted 5 years ago
or i'll just leave the Netflix shows blank in future... that works ;)

bungle posted 5 years ago
it's not that I don't want to add them in full hd, only I took a look at the Netflix portion of the guide and found it somewhat..baffling to say the least. :D
tnt posted 5 years ago

works for me. bulk uploading much faster when you don't have to go through each episode and delete invalid images first.
please mind that it's not limited to netflix, and https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/47/episode-and-character-screencaps is considering all episode images, at least for the shows from this century.


bungle posted 5 years ago
go on then twinkletoes, you can get working on that gamebros show since you had a problem with it. i've even deleted the "invalid" images for you.. ;)
tnt posted 5 years ago

spare me your jokes, buzybody, i don't need your permission.


bungle posted 5 years ago
me the busybody? my the irony.. :D

XX

deleted posted 5 years ago

Could you do me a bit of a favour and please be a bit more investigative in regards to some Korean series?

You added a lot of mismatching information (and I know exactly where'd you got it from ;p) as this show will only have 5 episodes of 50min by MBC (instead of the 10 by others).

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/45892/xx

Not really meant as a complain though, but don't rely too much on Mydramalist.com where I'd assume you got it from as they're such a shitty page for accurate info :p


bungle posted 5 years ago
thetvdb actually. but thx for the fix ;)
deleted posted 5 years ago

Practically the same crap haha :)


bungle posted 5 years ago
wasn't implying it's any better, just that your got ur prediction wrong hehe. add to that it's not only them that have the wrong info for this show. here is another link that also says 10 episodes were ordered: https://www.kpopmap.com/xx-2020-web-drama-cast-summary/
deleted posted 5 years ago

I never said that ten episodes were not wrong my friend, but you used mismatching information. V Live (which is part of Naver TV) ordered ten episodes starting from January 22nd, while MBC ordered only five episodes starting from the 24th. https://namu.wiki/w/%EC%97%91%EC%8A%A4%EC%97%91%EC%8A%A4(XX)

While both parties are involved with the production and V Live is considered to be a non-curated network according to TV maze, MBC would therefore get precedence and V Live would only broadcast the first two episodes ahead of MBC too. 


bungle posted 5 years ago
that's hella confusing lol. glad someone around here knows their stuff :P

QI XL, yesterday you deleted 12x04 Queasy Quacks


bungle posted 5 years ago

since the bbc's schedules are unreliable for this show I have decided to remove all the episodes until the next one airs. but bear in mind, regardless of which XL episode they decide to air next, it should still be listed as ep. 4 here. since we order the episodes by the date they air, not to match the numbering on the non-xl show. cheers ;)

augur posted 5 years ago

I understand, air date vs dvd order.

Would you consider creating an Alternate List at some point as on the BBC iPlayer they have fixed episode numbers irrespective of air date. Otherwise I'm sure people will occasionally try and 'fix' the order requiring the show be locked.


bungle posted 5 years ago

if the order on dvd varies from the dates we shown, then yes you are welcome to create the alternative list. but personally i'm not fussed myself as its a lot to manage doing that for every bbc show that airs an episode out of order. ;)

augur posted 5 years ago

For most shows I agree but the 1:1 link between QI and QI XL (also Have I Got News for You and Have I Got a Bit More News for You) episodes makes them different, they're like an extended dvd version but not quite. A bit of a PITA to be honest.

It's also going to cause issues for anyone using the tvmaze scraper since scene numbering would match what the BBC say rather than air date. I guess leave it for now and see how much of an issue it becomes.

PS I can't create an Alternate List, it requires someone of Trusted or higher.


bungle posted 5 years ago

I agree it annoyed me a lil when they did this with 'not going out' last season, but it is what it is. blame the bbc i guess for their awful scheduling as of late. :P


bungle posted 5 years ago

looks like they re-scheduled ep.4 for next sat. we'll see how it goes ;)

Curious

deleted posted 5 years ago

Hii Bungle,

You recently added a few Korean series, but I'm wondering as to what sites you used to gain some information as I noticed a few flaws with airing dates with them?

Thanks and enjoy your weekend :)


bungle posted 5 years ago

sure no probs..since the requester added in externals on those I used the importer for the epsiodes. but if you leave me some details on which show needs fixing and be happy to i'll look into it if they haven't been done already. thanks Thomas ;)

deleted posted 5 years ago

I've already done it myself, but I'm expecting the requester did use MyDramalist.com, didn't he? Just for your information, try to avoid that site at all cost if you want to add information haha, but thanks for your speedy reply.


bungle posted 5 years ago

i'm not sure as you didn't say which show were you having problems with? however i'm pretty sure I only used the requesters dramalist links for referencing out some akas and maybe to compare it to the information that was already imported. :)

deleted posted 5 years ago

Ah well this one for example: https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/44541/the-end-of-the-world

Was set to be ended on April 21st lol, while in fact it changed schedules on that date and ran till may, 5th.

Anyway I would not use tvdb for Korean shows either haha, I usually have the sync off for them as I usually keep them by myself up to date :o. Somehow users on tvdb love to create imaginary unofficial titles.

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