showing the same picture for all actors who played a part

kyrat wrote 3 years ago: 2

The cast for Days of our lives is showing the same picture for all actors who played a part,
It lists the character several times with the different actors' names., but then shows the same picture, which was disconcerting/confusing.

E.g. Tammy Taylor & Kristian Alfonso both separately listed as playing Hope. Bu the picture next to both of them is Kristian Alfonso. Sam with the actors who played Brady, Chad, Gabbi, etc. etc.

I get this is probably cuz in most (non-soap) shows, multiple people don't play the same character, but if the db is able to handle different actor names attached to the character, it should also show the appropriate photo next to that person's name. (and seems a little unfair to the other actor whose screenshot isn't shown next to their name)

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/812/days-of-our-lives/cast

gazza911 wrote 3 years ago: 1

Currently it only supports showing one image per character.

However, if the character doesn't have an image, then it would display the actor's image instead.

As one of the actor's image has been uploaded to the character, this is used for both of them.

david wrote 3 years ago: 2

Moving to bugs,, I'll look into this.

jcar03 wrote 3 years ago: 2

Yes, I hate this too especially for the soaps. I often change it to the current person playing the part or you can remove it all together and it will default to the actors profile pic (as long as they have one).

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 4

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/cast would be a perfect example of how bad it looks

deleted wrote 3 years ago: 1

Yeah, still my preferred item that should be fixed as soon as possible to make it possible to tie character photos to an actor instead of showing one photo for all characters.... Kinda annoying tho.

david wrote 3 years ago: 2

OK. The ultimate solution, making it possible to upload multiple images for a character each tied to a specific person, would involve a lot more work.

But I now created an exception for these cases where there is more than one actor linked to a character, they will now use the person's image instead of the character's image. See https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/812/days-of-our-lives/cast and https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/cast etc. :)

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
But I now created an exception for these cases where there is more than one actor linked to a character, they will now use the person's image instead of the character's image. See https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/812/days-of-our-lives/cast and https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/cast etc. :)

Looks much better, but this is a temporary solution, right?

david wrote 3 years ago: 2

@tnt wrote:
Looks much better, but this is a temporary solution, right?

Yes, but remember that nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution ;-)

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Yes, but remember that nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution ;-)

Well, this will basically undo the work of many people, who uploaded character portraits, so I really hope is not one of those cases...

david wrote 3 years ago: 1

@tnt wrote:
Well, this will basically undo the work of many people, who uploaded character portraits, so I really hope is not one of those cases...

The character portraits are still visible everywhere else, like on https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/characters, or on https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1954384/the-crown-4x10-war/castappearances

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 2

@david wrote:
The character portraits are still visible everywhere else, like on https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/characters, or on https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1954384/the-crown-4x10-war/castappearances

Yeah, but on episode level the cast appearances still displaying the same picture for different actors, so the temporary solution doesn't reach this far yet )))

david wrote 3 years ago: 1

Indeed. So allowing to upload character images for a specific actor is still the ultimate solution, but this change in no way undoes any work.

gazza911 wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david Does this still apply when it's voice only?

I think in this scenario, they should still share the same character image.

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
The character portraits are still visible everywhere else, like on https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3594/the-crown/characters, or on https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1954384/the-crown-4x10-war/castappearances

I see that you already applied the fix to episode level, and to be honest it looks weird.

So here https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1945737/next-1x03-file-3/cast Richard Pearish has the picture of actor Michael Herzovi (because the character is also voiced by another actor). But here https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1956479/next-1x04-file-4/cast Richard Pearish has the proper character's image. So the same character presented differently in different episodes, which is awkward and confusing.

At the same time here https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1949630/the-mandalorian-2x02-chapter-10-the-passenger the Frog Lady somehow has a proper character portrait, despite that she's portrayed and voiced by two different actors. So apparently the fix doesn't work when the character is shared between main and guest star. But in this situation, everything looks exactly as it should. As opposed to https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1949632/the-mandalorian-2x04-chapter-12-the-siege, which now shows two actor's images instead of the character portrait, and the episode page looks incomplete.

I agree with gazza, voice actors definitely should be ignored.

TomSouthwell wrote 3 years ago: 1

I agree with tnt and gazza about voice actors this just looks off now, like the guides only half done

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/4243/iron-man

david wrote 3 years ago: 1

Good point, ignored for voice actors!

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Good point, ignored for voice actors!

don't seem to work. or rather it's half-working.

https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1945737/next-1x03-file-3/cast Richard Pearish still has the image of actor Michael Herzovi (voice of Richard Pearish has the proper character image)
https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1949632/the-mandalorian-2x04-chapter-12-the-siege/cast Teacher Droid has the image of actor Chris Bartlett (voice of Teacher Droid has the proper character image)

What I've meant, is that the voice actors should be ignored completely. If the character has separate physical and voice actors (or two different voice actors), the voice actor part should be ignored, and the character should be considered as portrayed by a single actor, so this new fix won't be applied at all.

david wrote 3 years ago: 1

Hah, a different voice and non-voice actor for the same character in the same episode... you couldn't make that shit up. I don't think I can improve that within the current scope. Go vote for actor-specific character images support ;-)

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Hah, a different voice and non-voice actor for the same character in the same episode... you couldn't make that shit up. I don't think I can improve that within the current scope.

it's actually pretty common for sci-fi/fantasy shows and films when one actor is wearing prosthetics and the other is voicing the character. Daleks would be the most well-known example. hell, even Darth Vader was played by David Prowse, but his voice belongs to James Earl Jones. I'm not even sure, what is more common - the character portrayed by several different actors, or the character performed and voiced by two different actors. so it's possible that by fixing a few rare cases, you're broken more common ones.

that's too bad it can't be improved (couldn't you just ignore the character if one of the actors has a voice tag?). time spent on episodes to look complete is now effectively wasted... Now I think it was better before this fix.