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Source of information (Renewal - Cancellation)

Quinlan wrote 8 years ago: 1

It would be nice to have a link or something somewhere citing the source to see where the information came from about a renewal or cancellation.

For example, I just notice that APB (http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/12336/apb) was tagged as Ended but at the moment I am writing this, I can't find anything official.

Most websites do not say anything about it, at best I found only one place saying "Certain cancellation" as a prediction. So even though it will probably be cancelled, I think someone jumped the gun a bit too fast.

(If there is a source and I missed it, disregard)


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

APB's last episode aired last week. It's not very likely to be renewed, but FOX hasn't said anything (they wouldn't anyway.) I'd say it should be set at To Be Determined for now. Fall schedule announcements should start this week, so we will know one way or the other soon.


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

Y'all do know we report this stuff right here on Maze don't you? ;)

Quinlan wrote 8 years ago: 1

Basically, there are only third party sources ?

Deadline doesn't say anything
renewcancel... says "a source said".
tvseriesfinale : As of May 9, 2017, APB has not been cancelled or renewed for a second season.

Your job is hard :D

Well, anyway, maybe somewhere the trusted and editors can have a field to put a source. On the long run for tvmaze, that source can be evaluated and so on.


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

Quinlan wrote:
Basically, there are only third party sources ?
Deadline doesn't say anything
renewcancel... says "a source said".
tvseriesfinale : As of May 9, 2017, APB has not been cancelled or renewed for a second season.
Your job is hard :D
Well, anyway, maybe somewhere the trusted and editors can have a field to put a source. On the long run for tvmaze, that source can be evaluated and so on.

Deadline is always a questionable source in my mind as so many of their headlines are little more than click-bait.

renew/cancel, I think is going off the same information as I am, that the ratings are low, and FOX isn't desperate enough to renew. Their "source" is the ratings numbers.

tvseriesfinale waits for confirmation from the network, either a press release a-la Emerald City (which was officially canceled) or they wait for the Fall schedules (which will be out the end of this week).

I haven't seen any press release confirming (or denying) the status of APB or any other FOX program in the last few days other than the renewal of Family Guy over the weekend.

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:
renew/cancel, I think is going off the same information as I am, that the ratings are low, and FOX isn't desperate enough to renew. Their "source" is the ratings numbers.

Or they just doesn't want to disclosure the source :) We can only guess, but as I've said, they rarely mistaken.

Anyway, if it make someone feel better, the status could be changed to TBD.


gazza911 wrote 8 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:

Deadline is always a questionable source in my mind as so many of their headlines are little more than click-bait.
renew/cancel, I think is going off the same information as I am, that the ratings are low, and FOX isn't desperate enough to renew. Their "source" is the ratings numbers.
tvseriesfinale waits for confirmation from the network, either a press release a-la Emerald City (which was officially canceled) or they wait for the Fall schedules (which will be out the end of this week).
I haven't seen any press release confirming (or denying) the status of APB or any other FOX program in the last few days other than the renewal of Family Guy over the weekend.

How about using Renewed (Predicted) for your rating roundup articles?

And for those officially revealed make it a link to the source.


TomSouthwell wrote 8 years ago: 1

gazza911 wrote:

How about using Renewed (Predicted) for your rating roundup articles?
And for those officially revealed make it a link to the source.

We wouldn't really want to link to another tv news site in our articles. A lot of the time, renewals are on,y sent out via press releases, so there's nothing put up on official websites

Tonks wrote 8 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:

Deadline is always a questionable source in my mind as so many of their headlines are little more than click-bait.



Except that if you'd listen to people from the inside, they tell you that nowadays, they learn the fate of their shows from deadline... It was true at the beginning, it is still true today.

But yeah, APB as cancelled with no official word is premature even if probably true. It would be more problematic if it was also on rosewood...

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

Ok, I've changed the status to TBD, but I'm afraid it will not save the series :)


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

gazza911 wrote:

How about using Renewed (Predicted) for your rating roundup articles?
And for those officially revealed make it a link to the source.

I'm not making predictions, I'll leave that to various reapers and bears. ;-) What I am doing is reporting the ratings information weekly so folks can see why Elementary is going to be canceled, as an example or why even though Tony and Ziva left, NCIS is still the darling at CBS. Renewed or Canceled is only added once a network has confirmed it. You'll note I do not have Ransom or Training Day listed as "Canceled" for example even though both of them surely won't be back.

BrettMarks wrote 8 years ago: 1

Yeah, TBH I am getting a bit sick of TVBTN as they like to say something is "Canceled" even though it never officially was; yes, it's likely 99% canceled if they do that, but still they shouldn't label it as so unless it is 100% official.

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

Tonks wrote: It would be more problematic if it was also on rosewood...

Sorry, too late for that. Rosewood is officially cancelled.


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

BrettMarks wrote:
Yeah, TBH I am getting a bit sick of TVBTN as they like to say something is "Canceled" even though it never officially was; yes, it's likely 99% canceled if they do that, but still they shouldn't label it as so unless it is 100% official.

The only problem with that is shows are rarely "officially" canceled. They get yanked off schedules like Doubt or You the Jury with no warning and are never seen again. Or they are ended and actors/writers/showrunners say something on social media (which a network may sometimes deign to confirm). The Odd Couple is canceled, how do we know that? Matthew Perry tweeted that his door had been painted over at the studio. :-)

You will always hear "official" news on renewals, rarely about cancellations.

Networks will start announcing their fall schedules and start the hype for pilot shows by the end of this week. For many programs, if they aren't on that Fall schedule that's about as "official" as it will get.

Quinlan wrote 8 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:

The Odd Couple is canceled, how do we know that? Matthew Perry tweeted that his door had been painted over at the studio.

Whhaaaat? oh well...

BrettMarks wrote 8 years ago: 1

LadyShelley wrote:

You will always hear "official" news on renewals, rarely about cancellations.

That's fair enough, but I guess they should at least wait until more concrete evidence is shown, such as it's not in the list of renewals annouced; cause if it's not renewed then what is it!? haha

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