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david wrote 2 years ago: 0

@tallanvor wrote:
A bunch of the Children in Need Doctor Who specials were just changed from insignificant to significant specials (such as this one: https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/13960/doctor-who-s01-special-born-again).  I think they should really be reverted to being listed as insignificant specials - they're not really advancing any story and they're not accessible to everyone.

Please check the definition of (in)significant special here: https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/15/episodes#significant-special


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tallanvor wrote 2 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Please check the definition of (in)significant special here: https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/15/episodes#significant-special

I don't think anyone would argue that the xmas episodes are significant, but if an insignificant special has to be at least 50% the length of a normal episode, shouldn't a significant special be expected to at least be that long as well?  8 minute scenes for charity aren't significant.

Mandrake wrote 2 years ago: 1

@CostaDax wrote:
Runtimes for both specials fixed!

Also, all 202 episodes of Λόλα have been added! :)

Thank you very much, namesake friend! Let me find some more episode lists you don't have already...

rianaxx wrote 2 years ago: 2

I think the HBO Max's summary is much more descriptive for this episode.   :)

After abandoning their truck in Kansas City, Joel and Ellie attempt to escape without drawing the attention of a vindictive rebel leader.


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JuanArango wrote 2 years ago: 1

@rianaxx wrote:
I think the HBO Max's summary is much more descriptive for this episode.   :)

I think this is coming down to taste, as both sumamries are fine.

rianaxx wrote 2 years ago: 2

@JuanArango wrote:
I think this is coming down to taste, as both sumamries are fine.

It's just that this is the official summary from HBO and it tells exactly what happens during the premise of the episode which the other summary does not.  :)


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LadyShelley wrote 2 years ago: 1

@tallanvor wrote:
I don't think anyone would argue that the xmas episodes are significant, but if an insignificant special has to be at least 50% the length of a normal episode, shouldn't a significant special be expected to at least be that long as well?  8 minute scenes for charity aren't significant.

They do advance the plot. Born Again is the introduction of the new Doctor and leads directly into The Christmas Invasion, for example. 


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momijigari wrote 2 years ago: 1

@LadyShelley wrote:
They do advance the plot. Born Again is the introduction of the new Doctor and leads directly into The Christmas Invasion, for example. 

Isn't the real main issue in this case that short segments from a different show/event (with its own showpage) are listed as stand-alone specials on a second (third, fourth, etc) showpage?


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LadyShelley wrote 2 years ago: 1

@momijigari wrote:
Isn't the real main issue in this case that short segments from a different show/event (with its own showpage) are listed as stand-alone specials on a second (third, fourth, etc) showpage?

Maybe?? That might be why the short in front of The Runaway Bride is not listed. The Born Again, and Runaway Bride shorts were made available on the DVD release as well, so not sure how we should list them. As for the other shorts, those were not part of charity events and should be listed as significant as they do lead directly into episodes. There was a lot of stuff produced around the 50th anniversary for example. 

The question was why are they significant specials if they are so short. My point was that they do have plot significance and should be listed as such. 

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