airdate outside of its original country

Tonks wrote 8 years ago: 1

So, someone said on episode pages the network which premiered a show originating from elsewhere is showing.

I go look at time after time which did not air entirely in the US nor did ABC streamed it.

It aired elsewhere (Portugal and Spain) entirely, but if you look either at the episode listing or at the episodes itself, it does not display anywhere. You have dates, but they don't "say" that it was not ABC that aired them.

So my question is where is that information since people adamantly stated it was there...

Since David said no without discussion from the get go, i didn't see reason to discuss with him firther but people were asking obvious questions, peopel that worked on tvrage a lot and knew ecactly what i menat which was, somewhat, annoying, but i'm open to discussion and explain ad nauseum if people feign ignorance. I still think you need to review your premiere dates policy but i'm not fighting it but if someone tells me that it displays on episode pages, shouldn't it display (by the way, thanks for closing the topic while i was gone on holidays, so i couldn't even respond to the question about the display on episodes pages and evidently it does not show.

I am probably missing where ti displays but definitely not on the main episode page, just the dates, not the network.


gazza911 wrote 8 years ago: 1

Honestly, I don't really know what you're asking here.

It would be more helpful for you to tell us which show you're referring to and summarise what you think the issue is.

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

Tonks wrote:
So, someone said on episode pages the network which premiered a show originating from elsewhere is showing.

I go look at time after time which did not air entirely in the US nor did ABC streamed it.

It aired elsewhere (Portugal and Spain) entirely, but if you look either at the episode listing or at the episodes itself, it does not display anywhere. You have dates, but they don't "say" that it was not ABC that aired them.

That's because someone added those dates against the policy. I removed the dates. Our policy have an example for such a case:

For example, a show airs 10 episodes on FOX after which it's cancelled. A few months later, the final 3 episodes air on a foreign network. In this case, the airdate for those final 3 episodes must be left empty.

The show in question is "Time After Time", which was cancelled by ABC and pulled from the schedule after 5 episodes.

Tonks wrote 8 years ago: 1

So, again, whomever suggested that it was displayed on episode pages did not understand what i was saying which is surprising since all of you are from tvrage originally and know exactly what i meant by premiere dates.

So i'm going to ask again, i know it's futile, that you reconsider the premiere dates policy so that your site actually show correct dates. It's not an issue that other airdates show, correct networks should be displayed. And the fact David and and the others who are former developpers of tvrage makes it less understandable.


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

Granted it's 7:30am where I am, but I'm not understanding the issue here. The show was bought and aired on ABC. We have that network listed as the home network for the series.

The program was cancelled after five episodes, we have the ABC air dates for those five episodes, but since ABC didn't air anything else, the rest are left blank.

You're saying another network in another country picked up and aired the remaining episodes of the series, yes? So you want to change the home network to whomever aired the rest of the show and use those dates instead? That wouldn't work as the home network was ABC.

This sounds like something that would fall under the "premiere dates for other countries" in the pending features. Have you voted for that?

Tonks wrote 8 years ago: 1

No, lady.

Did you forget about world premiere displaying on tvrage episodes ?

I asked specifically because you send information through APIs and thus making other websites wrong that you showed premier airdates on episodes pages... Which you don't. Someone said you did, but you don't. Not only that but you don't display the network where it aired.

I don't particularly care one way or the other : a note, a comment, but something showing info. I already use wikipedia more than i use this website because there is so many erroneous info and because you don't really want to be a website that speciliazed in tv shows just a tv program. And i don't need a calender...

This website went aggressively after tvrage users and they never became the new tvrage. They're less. And it's a pity. Again, adding world premiere would only be a bonus. The refusal to discuss it from the get go is beyong my understanding, but that's their prerogative.

I was just stating that someone said that what i wanted was already in place (from the other topic which i'm not even going to try to find) and that was incorrect.


LadyShelley wrote 8 years ago: 1

I was never a part of tvrage so I have no idea what they did over there.

If you look at this page: http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1085988/time-after-time-1x04-secrets-stolen it's for an episode that did air on ABC. There is a premiere date, but you're right the network does not appear at that level, the network only appears at the show level. This page: http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/1109740/time-after-time-1x08-if-youre-lost is for an episode that did not air on ABC, but may have aired elsewhere. You're right there is no premiere date for it as it didn't air on the home network of ABC.

It sounds like what you want are premiere dates for other countries, which is a pending feature: http://www.tvmaze.com/threads/128/support-for-premiere-airdates-in-different-countries If/when that is implemented, then those other premiere dates for the episodes would be allowed as there would be database space for them.

Tonks wrote 8 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
Network also appears at the season level http://www.tvmaze.com/seasons/11088/time-after-time-season-1

But does not help in case when a network pulls a show does not air or stream it but is aired entirely elsewhere and i admit that has become rare but still happens.

There are plenty of shows from before streaming times, when networks would shelve shows instead of airing all the produced episodes that did air in other countries entirely. Tvrage had this in place because it was useful, it also gave the network and the country where it aired. Wikipedia is doing that job right now and there are getting better at not having incorrect info.

i'm sorry ladyshelley, there was someone with the exact same username over there, so that is eery you're not that same user, but okay.

Part of the issue is the premiere policy gives wrong info. Because you even use sneak previews as that but you're not following the logic to the end as in if canada airs a show one day early that its US broadcast, you don't put that airdate in and i already said it would eb stupid because Canada change air days along the year all the time, so lucifer could be airing one day early for three months, then air same say as Fox, or one day later.... And you put wrong airdates all the time, so that feature that's been in pending since the start is part of the solution (and i'll welcome it) but not the entire solution because part of the issue stems from how you decide premiere dates and it's not following logic. It's subjective and that makes other websites wrong which was my point in the first place when i genuinely asked if it could be reconsidered, the answer was no, again, i don't see a reason to discuss further when there is no possibility of discussion. Other people than David asked questions because they didn't see the issue and I answered.

Now, we don't have the airdates for time after time after episode 5 and it's pity, with the pending feature, it would help for the specific issue but not the underlying one.

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