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Support for Split Seasons


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

I know that split seasons are a rarity (For example Season 2A and Season 2B) but it happens often enough that it would be nice if we could have support for it.

Tonks wrote 4 years ago: 1

In essence what you want is a title for each part of a season ? Like this ?

https://www.a-suivre.org/annuseries/encyclopedie/series.php?p=guideepi/index&series=4747&saison=1

or like what they actually do for each season here but you'd go one step further ?


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

Sometimes a season ends and then when new episodes are ordered they wind up being part of the same season but still separate usually by A and B.

tnt wrote 4 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
Sometimes a season ends and then when new episodes are ordered they wind up being part of the same season but still separate usually by A and B.

Some shows initially split their seasons into parts. E.g. seasons 5 and 6 of Vikings both consist of two parts and were announced as such. But they still parts of the same season, aren't they?

I doubt it could be done easily because now the season number is, well, a number. An integer. Changing it to support naming like 2A and 2B would require some fundamental changes I suppose.

But what good is this information anyway? Ok, you would know that episode 2 belongs to the first part of a season and episode 10 to the second part. And...?

The only possible usage I see is to display "Running;returning" status between the parts of the same season, but I think it could be done by other means, which would support the shows on hiatus as well as multi-part seasons.


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

It's just a matter of changing an int column to a varchar column. You'd also have to make sure sorting works right so that 11 doesn't come before 2. But it's not a huge change.

The reason I bring this up is because Group Chat is calling Episodes 1-6 Group Chat with Annie and Jayden and after those episode ran, more Season 1 episodes were ordered and called Group Chat with Jayden and Brent. Some sources like Zap2it are handling it by calling it Season 2 but according to the Nick App it's still part of Season 1. Press releases are not calling it Season 2 just a premiere of new episodes.

tnt wrote 4 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
It's just a matter of changing an int column to a varchar column. You'd also have to make sure sorting works right so that 11 doesn't come before 2. But it's not a huge change.

It would also require changes in API and will affect all API users. 

The reason I bring this up is because Group Chat is calling Episodes 1-6 Group Chat with Annie and Jayden and after those episode ran, more Season 1 episodes were ordered and called Group Chat with Jayden and Brent. Some sources like Zap2it are handling it by calling it Season 2 but according to the Nick App it's still part of Season 1. Press releases are not calling it Season 2 just a premiere of new episodes.

When they say in the press release The first season of “Group Chat,” which Bartels co-hosted with Annie LeBlanc... doesn't it mean that they consider co-hosting with Rivera as a new season? 

Anyway, this situation is so unique that making fundamental changes to the code just to deal with it doesn't seem worthwhile.


LadyShelley wrote 4 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
It's just a matter of changing an int column to a varchar column. You'd also have to make sure sorting works right so that 11 doesn't come before 2. But it's not a huge change.

The reason I bring this up is because Group Chat is calling Episodes 1-6 Group Chat with Annie and Jayden and after those episode ran, more Season 1 episodes were ordered and called Group Chat with Jayden and Brent. Some sources like Zap2it are handling it by calling it Season 2 but according to the Nick App it's still part of Season 1. Press releases are not calling it Season 2 just a premiere of new episodes.

There's your answer. it's not a new season, per the network. 

I'd suggest something similar to what we did with the Gotham seasons and the different arc titles, such as here: 

https://www.tvmaze.com/seasons/47924/gotham-season-3

 


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

@tnt wrote:
It would also require changes in API and will affect all API users. 

When they say in the press release The first season of “Group Chat,” which Bartels co-hosted with Annie LeBlanc... doesn't it mean that they consider co-hosting with Rivera as a new season? 

Anyway, this situation is so unique that making fundamental changes to the code just to deal with it doesn't seem worthwhile.

It's not unheard of for shows to have a full season run and then a renewal of episodes that are tacked onto the same season instead of being added as a new season. So that isn't unique at all.

I agree that it might not be worth the trouble though since I don't know everything involved in making a switch like that.

tnt wrote 4 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
It's not unheard of for shows to have a full season run and then a renewal of episodes that are tacked onto the same season instead of being added as a new season. So that isn't unique at all.

Yes, but usually it's just a continuation of the season, without changing a show name, etc. So it doesn't need any special treatment for the new episodes. 

I agree that it might not be worth the trouble though since I don't know everything involved in making a switch like that.

I don't have the whole picture either, I can only make an assumption based on what I know.


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

Another example of a show with a split season is Faking It (MTV). Season 2 had a Season 2A and a year later Season 2B.

Just Add Magic also did that with Season 201 and a full year later Season 202. To be honest I found it confusing.


david wrote 4 years ago: 1

Indeed season numbers absolutely must be numbers, otherwise the episode ordering that depends on them would break down.

How about mentioning this in the season summary?


dpratt wrote 4 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Indeed season numbers absolutely must be numbers, otherwise the episode ordering that depends on them would break down.

How about mentioning this in the season summary?

Thanks for the suggestion. I will do that.

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