Architecture for Alternate Airdates


TonyMayhew wrote 4 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
Great! Good point regarding the linked network/web channel, I'll see if we can't display that nicely on the main page somewhere.

Yeah, gotta agree this would be a nice addition.

I've just added the UK airdates to Efterforskningen & unless you actually know which UK network it is airing on, there's no way to tell. 

Maybe something as simple as a little box to the right of where it says Season 1, 2, 3 etc with the alternate network would work?


kevin87 wrote 4 years ago: 1

@JuanArango wrote:
You might be correct, to do it for half a season will look a bit weird :)

Ran into a little issue similar to this. Paranormal Caught on Camera moved to Discovery+ with only 6 episodes left in the season... and as of last week, those episodes began airing weekly on Travel Channel again. The episodes/dates prior to 3x21 are from Travel Channel already, so should those be added to the alt list or just begin with the ones that went to Discovery+ first? 

deleted wrote 4 years ago: 1

Not sure if this is the correct thread but I see this was implemented and am wondering how it interacts with the calendar.

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/41061/the-north-water premieres this month on AMC (I think 1 week earlier on AMC+ than AMC? unsure about that though) but the "alternate episodes" are not on the calendar and the main episodes (BBC 2) won't air until autumn.


david wrote 4 years ago: 1

@kerk wrote:
Not sure if this is the correct thread but I see this was implemented and am wondering how it interacts with the calendar

It doesn't just yet.

Currently the alternate airdates can only be viewed in the episode list (as linked above), but next up we're going to discuss if & how the alternate dates might be used throughout the site such as in the calendar.


david wrote 4 years ago: 1

@MichaelDeBoey wrote:
@david So Streamz is premiering whole seasons of series before they "officially" air on één, VTM or Play4

In that case the "Streamz" airdates should be used as primary dates, and an alternate list ("broadcast premiere") can be created for the TV airdates.


MichaelDeBoey wrote 4 years ago: 1

@david wrote:
an alternate list ("broadcast premiere") can be created for the TV airdates.

Can you explain how I should do that?
I can't find it anywhere


david wrote 4 years ago: 2

Currently, Alternate Lists can only be created by Trusted Contributors; but adding episodes to an existing Alternate List is open to all Contributors.

You can request the creation of an alternate list in Edit Requests :)

suemac wrote 3 years ago: 1

What information should be included in requests to create alternate airdates/episode lists?

Link to show; Alternate Network/Web Channel; what else?

 

suemac wrote 3 years ago: 1

Just to confirm please: currently there is no interaction between alternate episode lists and the Calendar, right? I'm going to see the primary airing info on the calendar and not alternate.     My example is the show Transplant. https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/43828/transplant    It has primary CTV/Canada lists and alternate NBC/US lists. 

Right now I'm going to see s2e9 today 3/8/22, not s2e1 two days back on 3/6. Sometime in future perhaps a calendar dropdown to select US, I guess. Then further down line something similar on watchlists.  If this is already being discussed someplace in forums, I missed it.  Thanks


TomSouthwell wrote 3 years ago: 1

@suemac wrote:
Just to confirm please: currently there is no interaction between alternate episode lists and the Calendar, right? I'm going to see the primary airing info on the calendar and not alternate.     My example is the show Transplant. https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/43828/transplant    It has primary CTV/Canada lists and alternate NBC/US lists. 

Right now I'm going to see s2e9 today 3/8/22, not s2e1 two days back on 3/6. Sometime in future perhaps a calendar dropdown to select US, I guess. Then further down line something similar on watchlists.  If this is already being discussed someplace in forums, I missed it.  Thanks

Eventually this feature should interact with other aspects of the site but we have no ETA on that right now. 

@suemac wrote:
What information should be included in requests to create alternate airdates/episode lists?

Link to show; Alternate Network/Web Channel; what else?

 

Whatever it asks for when you create the alternate list, it depends completely on what sort of list you are setting up. 

suemac wrote 3 years ago: 1

@TomSouthwell wrote:
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Whatever it asks for when you create the alternate list, it depends completely on what sort of list you are setting up. 

Sorry my query was not clear.  I don't have permissions to create alternate air date lists, just to add episodes to lists that a higher permission user has already created.  So I can't see what 'it asks for',  I'm asking what that user would need.

 


CosmicHowl wrote 3 years ago: 2

@suemac wrote:
Sorry my query was not clear.  I don't have permissions to create alternate air date lists, just to add episodes to lists that a higher permission user has already created.  So I can't see what 'it asks for',  I'm asking what that user would need.

 

You just need to mention which alternate network/streaming service it will air on, link to the show page and why you want it. 
This is one I've written in the past.
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CosmicHowl wrote 13 days ago: 

Can an alternate episode list be created for The Witchfinder? It'll be released as a boxset on iPlayer and broadcast on BBC Two. Thanks

https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/44530/the-witchfinder


david wrote 3 years ago: 2

Supporting Contributors can now create alternate lists themselves! :)

deleted wrote 2 months ago: 0

Alternative lists are a premium feature, and I have no problem where additional features above and beyond what is freely available elsewhere require a subscription.
My question is this, regarding the calendar.
Why is it that default air date listings not shown as the free to air screenings, or standard tier streaming service release dates?
There are a number of shows I follow where entire seasons are listed as aired on a single date.
These are not mainstream air dates but dates where "top tier streaming subscribers" are able to access an entire season on the air date of the season premier air date for most other subscribers.
The majority of content viewers can only access each episode a week apart for example.
That being the case along with DVD episode order being categorised as an alternative list content, why not premium streaming subscription air dates also categorised as alternative list content?
The reason I ask is that as a relatively new member of this community, once I had editing privileges, I edited a season's air dates to reflect the weekly release dates per the shows official web page.
They were originally listed in this case as the "PBS Passport", that is all episodes on the same day access.
My editing privileges were suspended, I got a terse message from the original lister asking me to explain myself.
I provided an explanation along with a link to the shows official page, which clearly listed the mainstream air dates.
They were not happy with me and I quote "PBS Passport aired it earlier. Give me a sec and I'll clear you."
That's it, the alternative "premium streaming dates" were once again listed in the calendar as the "correct air dates", not the air dates for those who can afford higher levels of subscriptions.
Why bring this up now?
Because following the calendar another show I follow, the very same member has listed "premium streaming dates" listed as opposed to the mainstream release schedule.
In summation, I like this site primarily due to calendaring and being able to follow a show.
As such I can look ahead and plan my viewing.
However, if the calendar is rendered inaccurate, because members can impose information such as air dates other than mainstream release schedules the calendar thus this site is useless to me and no doubt others like myself who consume mainstream, free to air and lower tier streaming content subscriptions.
I've learnt my lesson "stay in your lane", as such I question whether this site is of use to me.


kevin87 wrote 2 months ago: 2

@deleted wrote:

They were originally listed in this case as the "PBS Passport", that is all episodes on the same day access.
My editing privileges were suspended, I got a terse message from the original lister asking me to explain myself.
I provided an explanation along with a link to the shows official page, which clearly listed the mainstream air dates.
They were not happy with me and I quote "PBS Passport aired it earlier. Give me a sec and I'll clear you."
That's it, the alternative "premium streaming dates" were once again listed in the calendar as the "correct air dates", not the air dates for those who can afford higher levels of subscriptions.
Why bring this up now?
Because following the calendar another show I follow, the very same member has listed "premium streaming dates" listed as opposed to the mainstream release schedule.
In summation, I like this site primarily due to calendaring and being able to follow a show.
As such I can look ahead and plan my viewing.
However, if the calendar is rendered inaccurate, because members can impose information such as air dates other than mainstream release schedules the calendar thus this site is useless to me and no doubt others like myself who consume mainstream, free to air and lower tier streaming content subscriptions.
I've learnt my lesson "stay in your lane", as such I question whether this site is of use to me.

The way the site lists data is by the world premiere, in which case PBS Passports premieres their co-produced shows on their service all at once first followed by weekly broadcasts. Those are still "mainstream" release schedules (also pretty sure you can subscribe to PBS Passport by donating $5 a month to PBS or $60 a year, so it's the cheapest there is really). As far as I'm aware, only Miss Scarlett has premiered far in advance of the broadcast airings. This is basically the same as The Paper premiering on Peacock and getting a broadcast run later on NBC, or when Disney Channel aired some Disney+ shows. Whichever official source premieres the most episodes first gets ownership. 

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