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obdue wrote 3 years ago: 1

Why https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/52260/obi-wan-kenobi status is TBD? It is a limited series and always was promoted as such. Shouldn't it stay 'Ended' until (if ever) it's officially renewed? I want it renewed as much as the next guy, but for now, it's just gossip and speculations.

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@obdue wrote:
Viktor should be a new character for season 3. She was Vanya for the first two seasons.

Sorry, Elliot Page is he/him, not she. And at the time, I was told that we shouldn't make a new character, as it would be too confusing.

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@PandaRed wrote:
Hi there? May we now change Vanya Hargreeves to Viktor Hargreeves in the Umbrella Academy? They are listed as Viktor on the Netflix/Tudum site. https://www.tvmaze.com/characters/477405/the-umbrella-academy-vanya-hargreeves
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/the-umbrella-academy/cast

Here's the relevant pages
https://www.tvmaze.com/threads/2677/edit-requests?page=1128
https://www.tvmaze.com/threads/2677/edit-requests?page=1129
When I asked if Viktor could be a new character, a mod told me 'I think that might go against policy since they're the same person, same history and all.'

obdue wrote 3 years ago: 1

@PandaRed wrote:
Sorry, Elliot Page is he/him, not she. And at the time, I was told that we shouldn't make a new character, as it would be too confusing.

Well, it wasn't Elliot who portrayed Vanya, it was Ellen, who was using the pronouns 'she' at the time. Elliot portrays Viktor.
There was no character named Viktor Hargreeves in the first two seasons, so simply renaming the character will not be any less confusing.

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@obdue wrote:
Well, it wasn't Elliot who portrayed Vanya, it was Ellen, who was using the pronouns 'she' at the time. Elliot portrays Viktor.
There was no character named Viktor Hargreeves in the first two seasons, so simply renaming the character will not be any less confusing.

A mod told me it would be against policy, that's why I'm bringing it to the edit page.

I'm also going by what most publications are doing, which is refering to Elliot by his proper pronouns when talking about past performanes. For example, when people talk about Page's past projects, they say 'Elliot Page' and 'he/him'.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/entertainment/elliot-page-trnd/index.html

obdue wrote 3 years ago: 0

@PandaRed wrote:
A mod told me it would be against policy, that's why I'm bringing it to the edit page.

I'm also going by what most publications are doing, which is refering to Elliot by his proper pronouns when talking about past performanes. For example, when people talk about Page's past projects, they say 'Elliot Page' and 'he/him'.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/entertainment/elliot-page-trnd/index.html

literally the first interview on google search results
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/jan/20/ellen-page-im-not-afraid-to-say-the-truth-interview-coming-out 
she/her, wife and wife alright

I suppose naming the character Vanya / Viktor Hargreeves could be a possible solution.

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@obdue wrote:
literally the first interview on google search results
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/jan/20/ellen-page-im-not-afraid-to-say-the-truth-interview-coming-out 
she/her, wife and wife alright

That's from 2019, Elliot hadn't yet come out as trans. They came out December 1st 2020. He's also said that looking at photos of himself before transition made him 'feel ill'. 
https://www.thethings.com/elliot-page-problematic-juno-scene-homophobia/
Most transgender people say that they were always trans, and just didn't know it at the time.


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JuanArango wrote 3 years ago: 2

@PandaRed wrote:
While the Vanya/Viktor is a possibility, the credits for most of The Umbrella Academy in season 3 list Elliot as Viktor, not Vanya/Viktor.

we will discuss this within staff :)


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JuanArango wrote 3 years ago: 1

@obdue wrote:
Why https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/52260/obi-wan-kenobi status is TBD? It is a limited series and always was promoted as such. Shouldn't it stay 'Ended' until (if ever) it's officially renewed? I want it renewed as much as the next guy, but for now, it's just gossip and speculations.

yes, I set it to ended.

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@JuanArango wrote:
we will discuss this within staff :)

Thank you :)

obdue wrote 3 years ago: -1

@PandaRed wrote:
While the Vanya/Viktor is a possibility, the credits for most of The Umbrella Academy in season 3 list Elliot as Viktor, not Vanya/Viktor.

What about seasons 1 and 2?

Beats me, why they even bothered. Vanya is actually a Russian male name, diminutive of Ivan. Think Chekhov's "Uncle Vanya" :)

PandaRed wrote 3 years ago: 1

@obdue wrote:
What about seasons 1 and 2?

Beats me, why they even bothered. Vanya is actually a Russian male name, diminutive of Ivan. Think Chekhov's "Uncle Vanya" :)

I don't think think this conversation is going to be productive, so I'm going to drop it. :)

Cecile wrote 3 years ago: 2

In The end of something Justin H. Min appears as Sparrow Ben Hargreeves, not as Ben Hargreeves. The second one should be deleted


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RoseRed wrote 3 years ago: 3

@Cecile wrote:
In The end of something Justin H. Min appears as Sparrow Ben Hargreeves, not as Ben Hargreeves. The second one should be deleted

Absolutely - done!

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