Upvoting and downvoting


david wrote 5 years ago: 8

We just deployed the first iteration of a new addition to TVmaze: upvotes and downvotes.

Recently there has been a lot of discussion about the quality and suitability of uploaded (show/episode) images. We're trying to tackle this partly by a more strict policy, but this'll only get us so far, since this is a pretty subjective matter.

To close that gap, it's now possible to vote (upvote or downvote) on show & episode images like here: https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/69/the-blacklist/gallery. Right now the vote results are merely displayed on that page and don't have any impact yet, but please go ahead and start upvoting images that you think are particularly suitable and downvote images that you consider to be bad quality. After a couple of weeks of voting we'll evaluate and discuss how we can use this voting data exactly. Some possibilities are sorting the images by the amount of upvotes, hiding images after a certain amount of downvotes, or perhaps even automatically set the highest voted image as main image.

While we were at it, we also added upvotes for forum posts and comments. The same goes here, right now the vote count doesn't have any effect yet, but we'll look into using it in the future. Possible options could be highlighting the most upvoted post in a forum thread so people who ask a question can quickly recognize the most useful answer; or hiding posts under a certain threshold to combat spam or trolling.


JuanArango wrote 5 years ago: 2

Good work, love the new feature :)

tnt wrote 5 years ago: 1

Jan wrote:
It will be added in a later update. We're still working on this as we speak.

Cool :)

Gislef wrote 5 years ago: 3

I can only speak to article and forum comments. So... why? It adds clutter to the pages, and it looks like making a comment automatically "upvotes" your own comment. Granted, most people would probably upvote their own stuff. So... let them do it.

"hiding images after a certain amount of downvotes"

Figuring the same applies to article and forum comments, hiding them after a certain amount of downvotes seems like it's going to discourage some people from posting. Why post if your stuff is going to get hidden/deleted? It also suggests that a dedicated downvoting effort could be used to target/hide a posters' comments, just like it can be used to "boost" or "drag down" a show's vote rating. .If someone posts something I don't like, can I just get 2/4/6/10+ friends to vote against it with me and get it removed?

If folks don't like article comments... let them post why they disagree. That seems to get more comments, more discussion, and more participation. Letting folks vote to possibly "hide" what they disagree with (presumably the votes would also be hidden) seems like the opposite of encouraging communication of data.

Plus, will the person who has their comment hidden know why it's gone? Wouldn't they just repost it? How will they know it was hidden and just not deleted by a system glitch? If it is hidden, will it be able to be voted back up at some point? As a writer, I want to see what people say about my articles. I don't want 2/4/6/10+ people determining that I don't get to see the comments and/or feedback.

That's if the voting is to reflect the "quality" of the comment (spam , flaming, and obscenities, for instance), rather than a difference of opinion. How you differentiate the two, I don't know. Other than the downvoting just bringing a comment to staff's attention, and then they decide if it should be hidden/deleted.

IMO, I'd advise against hiding/deleting people's work. It's work. You've got people taking the time and effort to post comments in articles and forums, and... you're hiding/deleting their time and effort. Remember, "veto" is an anagram of "vote". :)


gazza911 wrote 5 years ago: 2

Gislef, currently nothing happens when a comment is downvoted multiple times.

Therefore it hasn't been confirmed how they'd be processed; if it's going to be done by it flagging it to those with the permissions to remove then it would only be removed if it wasn't allowed.


david wrote 5 years ago: 2

Thanks for the feedback! Indeed, there is no effect on posts & comments at all just yet. If this changes, we'll carefully weigh all of these factors and clearly communicate about it! :)

Gadfly wrote 5 years ago: 1

If they're data policies they're data policies. Voting turns them into popularity contests, particularly if they're considered subjective.

Whether the upvote/download rules/guidelines/whatever are clearly communicated when they're deployed, will they be clearly communicated then and forever? And if so, how?

Myshows wrote 5 years ago: 1

Why does the system give a one thumb up to every comment?


david wrote 5 years ago: 3

Myshows wrote:
Why does the system give a one thumb up to every comment?

You are automatically upvoting your own post/comment.

SilverSurfer wrote 5 years ago: 1

david wrote:
You are automatically upvoting your own post/comment.

What if I disagree with myself?

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