Maybe it's a good idea to show if an episode is a crossover with another show?
You have for example Arrow & The Flash, NCIS & NCIS: LA & NCIS:NO, ...
MichaelDeBoey wrote:
Maybe it's a good idea to show if an episode is a crossover with another show?
You have for example Arrow & The Flash, NCIS & NCIS: LA & NCIS:NO, ...
We could always note such things in the episode summary, this would be a perfect place to put it.
cheers
Juan
JuanArango wrote:
We could always note such things in the episode summary, this would be a perfect place to put it.
cheers
Juan
The way I see it is more something like suggested in this thread, but this time at the episode level instead of the show level.
Yeah, i agree for crossovers, showing it at show level is not ideal but it's usually what is used on other websites. If you can code it so that you can actually properly add it at episode level, you'd have a feature that i have not seen elsewhere.
Relations between shows i've seen cause we've had them for long time, but not at episode level and we wanted to implement that. It's just a question of either doing small stuff and redeisgning/recoding everything so we chose the latter.
Tonks wrote:
Yeah, i agree for crossovers, showing it at show level is not ideal but it's usually what is used on other websites. If you can code it so that you can actually properly add it at episode level, you'd have a feature that i have not seen elsewhere.
Relations between shows i've seen cause we've had them for long time, but not at episode level and we wanted to implement that. It's just a question of either doing small stuff and redeisgning/recoding everything so we chose the latter.
I agree, relations on an episode level would be a cool thing to have :)
But it's also something for a later stadium I think.
At the moment Jan and David have their hands full with more important thing to implement I think :-)
MichaelDeBoey wrote:
But it's also something for a later stadium I think.
At the moment Jan and David have their hands full with more important thing to implement I think :-)
That is for sure :)
Not sure if this is the best area to mention this but sometimes the crossovers are parts 1 & 2 of the same story on different shows. It hasn't happened a lot but two examples come to mind that I just checked ...
Magnum PI S07E09 and Murder She Wrote S03E08 and,
Bones S11E05 and Sleepy Hollow S03E05
Perhaps the time/effort to address this would be too much for the limited benefits but I'd love to see these events marked in the episodes and/or watch list. It's probably not as big a deal at the time but years later someone trying to binge watch may get confused if they don't have a heads-up.
And, as an aside, I think that each shows DVD seasons should include the crossovers in the right sequence ... failure to do so would be a death penalty offense! ;-)
JuanArango wrote:
We could always note such things in the episode summary, this would be a perfect place to put it.
cheers
Juan
Actually, I believe we've been told not to put those kinds of things in the episode summary. That the summary shouldn't contain meta-data like the titles of other episodes.
Unless they're copied from the press statement, in which case... we are?
Gadfly wrote:
Actually, I believe we've been told not to put those kinds of things in the episode summary. That the summary shouldn't contain meta-data like the titles of other episodes.
Unless they're copied from the press statement, in which case... we are?
You are right :)
yeh , sorry, my mistake :(
Is it possible for it to be added to the pending feature relations between shows as it's pretty much the same but episodes themselves rather than the entirety of the show.
Gadfly wrote:
Actually, I believe we've been told not to put those kinds of things in the episode summary. That the summary shouldn't contain meta-data like the titles of other episodes.
Unless they're copied from the press statement, in which case... we are?
Correct. Perhaps I should state it more clearly in the policy, but the summary field should only be used for the summary, not for all other kinds of information.
(Do speak up if you would like to see a section for episode notes/FAQ; it would be easy to add but I'm waiting to make sure there would be plenty of people to support it)
gazza911 wrote:
Is it possible for it to be added to the pending feature relations between shows as it's pretty much the same but episodes themselves rather than the entirety of the show.
Not sure if we'll do it, but I've added a note there to consider it at a later point. :)
david wrote:
Correct. Perhaps I should state it more clearly in the policy, but the summary field should only be used for the summary, not for all other kinds of information.
(Do speak up if you would like to see a section for episode notes/FAQ; it would be easy to add but I'm waiting to make sure there would be plenty of people to support it)
Thanks for the clarifications David. I would definitely appreciate the option to add notes at the episode level (also at the season and show level). And maybe we could combine it with pending features private notes and friend/follow other TVmaze users (note can be public, shared or private).
Isn't this pending already? http://www.tvmaze.com/threads/136/relations-between-shows
david wrote:
Correct. Perhaps I should state it more clearly in the policy, but the summary field should only be used for the summary, not for all other kinds of information.
(Do speak up if you would like to see a section for episode notes/FAQ; it would be easy to add but I'm waiting to make sure there would be plenty of people to support it)
I think that a Notes section would be an important (and relatively simple) addition. This would allow specifying crossovers for shows and episodes (common on Dick Wolf shows), the correct order to watch a show (which is not always the broadcast order or the episode order), a list of unusual "Disk Extras" for shows, and relationships between people (e.g. Tomas Whedon is the father of Joss Whedon, Zack Whedon, and Jed Whedon; Juliet Landau is the daughter of Martin Landau and Barbara Bain).
I agree a Notes section would be very useful. I would suggest some way of moderating that content just so we don't end up with a similar mess to what exists on IMDb.
drbits wrote:
and relationships between people (e.g. Tomas Whedon is the father of Joss Whedon, Zack Whedon, and Jed Whedon; Juliet Landau is the daughter of Martin Landau and Barbara Bain).
That was part of the problem we had when we discussed it before. Where do you put that Juliet Landau is the daughter of Martin Landau and Barbara Bain? In every episode of every show that Juliet Landau appeared in? Only the ones where she appeared with them? (Juliet never appeared on TV with Martin, and she only appeared with her mother once in an episode of Ben 10: Alien Force).
Or do you mean biographical Notes? In that case, it seems like it would go in Juliet Landau's biography, and Martin Landau's biography, and Barbara Bain's biography.
Otherwise, what difference does it make who Juliet's parents are if I'm watching her in an episode of Thundercats, Criminal Minds, or Parker Lewis Can't Lose?
That'd be the "similar mess" at IMDB that LadyShelley mentions above, and it's not pretty. Not only do you need to designate staff to regulate the subs, but you need to create rules to determine what is and isn't acceptable.
Some sites also let people add "best known as" Notes, which I really hate.
a) If they're "best known" for something, that means I (and most readers) probably already know it. So it's redundant info. That's what "best known as" means.
b) Who decided they were "best known as"? Was there some kind of poll, or is it just the poster's opinion? What if someone else comes along and disagrees? Is Richard Dean Anderson best known as MacGyver, or Jack O'Neill on Stargate? Is the late Marvin Kaplan best known as Choo Choo on Top Cat, or Henry on Alice?
c) If I don't know what else they've been in, I can click on their actor link and see what else they've been on (and who their parents are). So again, it's redundant info.
d) Where do you put it? Do you say in the first episode of Stargate that Richard Dean Anderson is best known as MacGyver? But what if I'm tuning into the second episode? Or the fifth? Or the tenth? That Note on the first episode doesn't help me. Or do you put the Note on every Stargate episode where RDA appeared?
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That's why Notes can be useful... but they're subject to a wide range of abuse. And sometimes they're used when "Coincidence" is more what the contributor is thinking of. Like a note for Avengers saying "Jeremy Renner also played an archer in some 2001 show that you've never heard of." Was that why he got the role as Hawkeye? what's it got to do with Avengers?
Once you open up Notes to show crossovers, then you'll inevitably have people that say, "Well, this is like an episode of such-n-such, which also starred Actors X and Y that are in that episode." Unless you define crossovers... well, some people have an odd idea of what constitutes a crossover. And good luck making one universally accepted definition. ;)