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@Mihalko wrote:
Amnesia, whether chemically induced or not is a completely overused trope. If the writer's wanted to actually be creative and explorer humanity and human nature, Juliette should have returned fully aware of the fact that if she shares what she knows with the general populous she would cause rebellion and a lot of deaths. Showing how this knowledge and under the premise of doing what she believes will save the most people ends up turning her into a "Barnard Holland" would be a smart storyline.  Given her arrogance it would be wonderful to see concepts like the Dunning-Kruger effect (where overconfidence in one's abilities can lead to poor outcomes) used to self-sabotage her goal of sharing the truth after finding it.  We are beginning season 3 and I have seen zero growth, neither good nor bad, in Juliette. Instead of taking the easy way out and writing about different scenarios Juliette has to react to, how about being a good or at least a mediocre writer and write about her inner struggle, her growth, and the hubris of her own arrogance of doing whatever she wants to get the truth out even if it puts others lives at risk, and it ultimately turns her into the people she was fighting against because she believes she ultimately knows better than everyone else, and that only she can properly handle the truth, others are not capable of the truth without rebellion and a lot of death, so in the end she becomes that which she fought against.  

Good and great stories are ABOUT people, not what happens TO people. Stories about what happens to people are as boring and lazy as listening to someone tell a story where they keep repeating "...and then they...."

"Juliette investigates the suspicious death of her boyfriend George and then she becomes the new sheriff and then she uncovers evidence that powerful leaders are hiding the truth from the population and then she discovers that people have been manipulated for generations through censorship and surveillance and then they hunt her as she gets closer to the truth, and then they send her outside to clean, and then they expect her to die like everyone else before her, and then they discover she survives long enough to see that there are many other silos stretching across a devastated landscape and then she enters a neighboring silo called Silo 17 and then she finds that a rebellion destroyed its society, and then they reveal that a survivor named Solo has been living there for years, and then she learns more about the existence of multiple silos and the secrets guarded by their leaders, and then they show unrest growing back in Juliette's home silo after people learn she may have survived outside, and then they push closer to open rebellion against the authorities, and then they uncover more clues about why the silos were created and what happened to the world, and then they set up an even larger mystery about the origins of the apocalypse and the future of all the silos."

BOORRRRRING!!!!! No growth as a character. no relationship growth between characters. It is all just written as a "...and then they..." story. 🤮

Oh yah, I'm not disputing how amnesia is overused, and it's a sucky trope, almost as bad as the "it was all a dream".

But you're right, it is very much "...and then they...."

I meant my point as it's not simple amnesia. More that it is chemically induced, so it'll be tactical and selective, and as Juliette's memory returns, central to the drive of the story, hopefully moving it forward in a much better way.

@LucasMcFly wrote:
Except it's not amnesia , it's chemical memory suppression. I would imagine a variation on the suppression gas that had been used in the past rebellion(s?). Otherwise Juliette would just spout the cake is a lie and a fresh rebellion would start.

Amnesia, whether chemically induced or not is a completely overused trope. If the writer's wanted to actually be creative and explorer humanity and human nature, Juliette should have returned fully aware of the fact that if she shares what she knows with the general populous she would cause rebellion and a lot of deaths. Showing how this knowledge and under the premise of doing what she believes will save the most people ends up turning her into a "Barnard Holland" would be a smart storyline.  Given her arrogance it would be wonderful to see concepts like the Dunning-Kruger effect (where overconfidence in one's abilities can lead to poor outcomes) used to self-sabotage her goal of sharing the truth after finding it.  We are beginning season 3 and I have seen zero growth, neither good nor bad, in Juliette. Instead of taking the easy way out and writing about different scenarios Juliette has to react to, how about being a good or at least a mediocre writer and write about her inner struggle, her growth, and the hubris of her own arrogance of doing whatever she wants to get the truth out even if it puts others lives at risk, and it ultimately turns her into the people she was fighting against because she believes she ultimately knows better than everyone else, and that only she can properly handle the truth, others are not capable of the truth without rebellion and a lot of death, so in the end she becomes that which she fought against.  

Good and great stories are ABOUT people, not what happens TO people. Stories about what happens to people are as boring and lazy as listening to someone tell a story where they keep repeating "...and then they...."

"Juliette investigates the suspicious death of her boyfriend George and then she becomes the new sheriff and then she uncovers evidence that powerful leaders are hiding the truth from the population and then she discovers that people have been manipulated for generations through censorship and surveillance and then they hunt her as she gets closer to the truth, and then they send her outside to clean, and then they expect her to die like everyone else before her, and then they discover she survives long enough to see that there are many other silos stretching across a devastated landscape and then she enters a neighboring silo called Silo 17 and then she finds that a rebellion destroyed its society, and then they reveal that a survivor named Solo has been living there for years, and then she learns more about the existence of multiple silos and the secrets guarded by their leaders, and then they show unrest growing back in Juliette's home silo after people learn she may have survived outside, and then they push closer to open rebellion against the authorities, and then they uncover more clues about why the silos were created and what happened to the world, and then they set up an even larger mystery about the origins of the apocalypse and the future of all the silos."

BOORRRRRING!!!!! No growth as a character. no relationship growth between characters. It is all just written as a "...and then they..." story. 🤮

@Mihalko wrote:
How do you know the writers ran out of ideas and your show is taking a nose dive to sucksville? Amnesia is introduced into the plot or they do an episode that is entirely a musical. I'm guessing the musical episode is season 3 episode 8 or 9.

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Except it's not amnesia , it's chemical memory suppression. I would imagine a variation on the suppression gas that had been used in the past rebellion(s?). Otherwise Juliette would just spout the cake is a lie and a fresh rebellion would start.

How do you know the writers ran out of ideas and your show is taking a nose dive to sucksville? Amnesia is introduced into the plot or they do an episode that is entirely a musical. I'm guessing the musical episode is season 3 episode 8 or 9.

@GoddessRavinia wrote:
ya, love it, but I just did a watch back of the previous last 3 eps of last season was a good recap

hihi, i did that too! 

@SanneBlomme wrote:
there are wonderful recaps that aren't AI on youtube... man of recaps of bobbydoesrecaps

i'm intrigued with the premiere

ya, love it, but I just did a watch back of the previous last 3 eps of last season was a good recap

@GoddessRavinia wrote:
ok for real i might need a Recap, cause idr what happened since this show got its 3rd season... and the Scene from the past, the Iran Cloud of Nanites??? what is that

there are wonderful recaps that aren't AI on youtube... man of recaps of bobbydoesrecaps

i'm intrigued with the premiere

ok for real i might need a Recap, cause idr what happened since this show got its 3rd season... and the Scene from the past, the Iran Cloud of Nanites??? what is that