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tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

SilverSurfer wrote:
Unlike Sherlock Holmes who is a real person, and still lives tending his bees', Ellery Queen was not a real person ...
I've added (along with Ellery Queen akas)
http://www.tvmaze.com/people/169318/manfred-b-lee and
http://www.tvmaze.com/people/169317/frederic-dannay so
http://www.tvmaze.com/people/131641/ellery-queen can be deleted. Pls 'n txs

If that's the case, why do you create authors not under their real names?
I'm not sure, that this is right.
Pseudonym or not – they best known under this name, and credited as such. And they known as Ellery Queen only together, not one by one. How is it different from the musical bands for example? We do not split them by members, so why we should split joint pseudonymes?

SilverSurfer wrote 8 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
If that's the case, why do you create authors not under their real names?
I'm not sure, that this is right.
Pseudonym or not – they best known under this name, and credited as such. And they known as Ellery Queen only together, not one by one. How is it different from the musical bands for example? We do not split them by members, so why we should split joint pseudonymes?

OK, if it was one person, but it's two separate people. How do you fill out the bio? Whose picture? Which date of birth/death? To me, bands vs writers is apples and oranges. Others may disagree. Perhaps the uniqueness of Ellery Queen is the exception that proves your rule? YMMV. I leave the decision up to TPTB on how they want this handled.

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

SilverSurfer wrote:

OK, if it was one person, but it's two separate people. How do you fill out the bio? Whose picture? Which date of birth/death? To me, bands vs writers is apples and oranges. Others may disagree. Perhaps the uniqueness of Ellery Queen is the exception that proves your rule? YMMV. I leave the decision up to TPTB on how they want this handled.

Ellery Queen is not unique. We have James S. A. Corey for example. Maybe more.

SilverSurfer wrote 8 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
Ellery Queen is not unique. We have James S. A. Corey for example. Maybe more.

Perhaps this entry also needs to be fixed ...

SilverSurfer wrote 8 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
If that's the case, why do you create authors not under their real names?
I'm not sure, that this is right.
Pseudonym or not – they best known under this name, and credited as such. And they known as Ellery Queen only together, not one by one. How is it different from the musical bands for example? We do not split them by members, so why we should split joint pseudonymes?

Going back to your band thought for a second ... in

http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/63684/tanked-2x08-where-the-wild-things-are

KISS appears in the episode. Are you suggesting a "person" named KISS be created and that is the only guest cast listed? Not the individuals? How would you handle the line-up changes within bands? And credits on albums, if I remember correctly, list individuals and not just everything lumped in under the band name.

But again, I don't want to take up anymore space here for a topic that may be best broken out. I leave the final decision the the SysGod(s) in charge.

Mandrake wrote 8 years ago: 1

Hi again! I have two questions!

1. I cannot find in tvdb, web series I requested from you to create like "Heroes: Hard Knox", "24: Day 6 - Debrief" and some more. How did you manage with these and created episode lists?

2. Why did you rejected "L'ile" ('87); I recently aquired that in VHSRip. It was released in my country in three video cassettes. Where did you get information about premiere in cinema as a feature film? IMDB registered this as "TV mini series". Wikipedia in the page of the author (this production comes from a same titled novel) Robert Merle writes: "his 1962 novel L'île was filmed as a 1987 miniseries". French Wikipedia writes about "TV movie that broadcasted in television in 1987". German Wikipedia writes about a 4-parted (episodes) TV series that broadcasted in Germany from 25 December 1989 to 1 January 1990. It's not a videotaped TV series but a filmed one. That does not mean we're talking about a feature film that released in cinemas.

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

SilverSurfer wrote:

Going back to your band thought for a second ... in
http://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/63684/tanked-2x08-where-the-wild-things-are
KISS appears in the episode.

On-screen appearance vs crew credits is oranges vs apples in your words. Music bands are allowed to be added as persons here, and for a good reason. If KISS write a music to some series, and it's credited as "Music by KISS", how we should credit them here? If The Expanse titles clearly says "Based on the novels by James S. A. Corey", why we would split Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck, if they personally prefer to write and publish the books together under this joint name? If the authors wanted to be credited individually, they wouldn't invent those fictional persons, would they?

We're not literary nor musical encyclopedia. There's Wiki for this. We stick to the on-screen credits. And anything worth mentioning can be written here in the Bio field.

One more example. Let's say, that there's some series based on book by Ellery Queen. And this series doesn't have "Ellery Queen" name in the title. You want to find all series, based on books by Ellery Queen. How would you do that?

tnt wrote 8 years ago: 1

Mandrake wrote:
Hi again! I have two questions!
1. I cannot find in tvdb, web series I requested from you to create like "Heroes: Hard Knox", "24: Day 6 - Debrief" and some more. How did you manage with these and created episode lists?

1. Manually. They have few episodes, so it's easy and fast.

2. You was given an answer in the notes from the handler.

deleted wrote 8 years ago: 1

Mandrake wrote:
Hi again! I have two questions!
1. I cannot find in tvdb, web series I requested from you to create like "Heroes: Hard Knox", "24: Day 6 - Debrief" and some more. How did you manage with these and created episode lists?
2. Why did you rejected "L'ile" ('87); I recently aquired that in VHSRip. It was released in my country in three video cassettes. Where did you get information about premiere in cinema as a feature film? IMDB registered this as "TV mini series". Wikipedia in the page of the author (this production comes from a same titled novel) Robert Merle writes: "his 1962 novel L'île was filmed as a 1987 miniseries". French Wikipedia writes about "TV movie that broadcasted in television in 1987". German Wikipedia writes about a 4-parted (episodes) TV series that broadcasted in Germany from 25 December 1989 to 1 January 1990. It's not a videotaped TV series but a filmed one. That does not mean we're talking about a feature film that released in cinemas.

To come back at your 2nd point, I did reject it for a couple of reasons. You didn't specify what L'ile you were referring to? I assumed you were talking about the one from 2006 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'%C3%8Ele_(film,_2006), which did air in the Venice festival. On top of that, we can not accept a series if there is no streaming service or network it premieres on and I seem to be unable to find one + the french wikipedia as u said wrote it as a tv movie. Are you definitely sure it is a series?

If you are sure, you are welcome to apply it again with more detailed info.

SilverSurfer wrote 8 years ago: 1

tnt wrote:
On-screen appearance vs crew credits is oranges vs apples in your words. Music bands are allowed to be added as persons here, and for a good reason. If KISS write a music to some series, and it's credited as "Music by KISS", how we should credit them here? If The Expanse titles clearly says "Based on the novels by James S. A. Corey", why we would split Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck, if they personally prefer to write and publish the books together under this joint name? If the authors wanted to be credited individually, they wouldn't invent those fictional persons, would they?
We're not literary nor musical encyclopedia. There's Wiki for this. We stick to the on-screen credits. And anything worth mentioning can be written here in the Bio field.
One more example. Let's say, that there's some series based on book by Ellery Queen. And this series doesn't have "Ellery Queen" name in the title. You want to find all series, based on books by Ellery Queen. How would you do that?

Since you asked ...

1. Make individual entries for each (current) member of KISS and add them in as 'music by' category.

2. Agreed, anything worth mentioning can go in the bio field ... stuff like they write with a partner as James SA Corey. Since some authors have multiple pseudonyms, they can all be listed under the one person rather than separately. And if screen credits are the final say, why are actors who have gone by various names lumped into one person? Why would you not have a separate listing for each alias ... after all, that's what on screen.

3. So you are saying the search function here is so bad in will not find a series for Ellery Queen just because the name Ellery Queen is an AKA instead of an actual entry as a person? Then why do we bother with AKAs?


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gazza911 wrote 8 years ago: 1

SilverSurfer wrote:

3. So you are saying the search function here is so bad in will not find a series for Ellery Queen just because the name Ellery Queen is an AKA instead of an actual entry as a person? Then why do we bother with AKAs?

You'd find it, but people might assume that it's something different it has a completely different name.

RuneMagle wrote 8 years ago: 1

Please change title to "Tangled: Before Ever After". Here

JAGUARDOG wrote 8 years ago: 1

Can someone correct the title of this series "Real Housewives of Toronto" please? According to the show's poster photo, the show summary and imdb.com there is a "The" in the front so it needs to read this "The Real Housewives of Toronto". - http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/20158/real-housewives-of-toronto

Thank you very much, Ron.

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