Difficult Situation - Guest Cast

I thought we only added people who actually appeared in the episode. So if she's in some but not others, she's only listed in the episodes where she actually appears. I don't watch Twin Peaks to understand why this would be different from any other show.

This came up before. I asked if it would be useful to create a new cast type which is the opposite of 'uncredited': "Credit Only" or "Not Appearing" or so.

You mean she is credited, but not appearing in the episode? Or vice versa, she's appearing, but not credited?

Skip if former and add as Uncredited if later.

The first situation is pretty common actually, at least with the main cast. TWD came to mind. Or Expanse.

LadyShelley wrote:
I thought we only added people who actually appeared in the episode. So if she's in some but not others, she's only listed in the episodes where she actually appears. I don't watch Twin Peaks to understand why this would be different from any other show.

This is definitely the case for cast appearances, but for guest cast itself it's ambiguous at the moment.

She is credited as Guest cast but she is not appearing, that is the situation, so we either do not list her or we list her :)

The new Twin Peaks season only has one Starring cast member, the rest are all listed as guest cast.

david wrote:
This came up before. I asked if it would be useful to create a new cast type which is the opposite of 'uncredited': "Credit Only" or "Not Appearing" or so.

That would seem to be the way to go, if there's any way to go with it. The alternative would be to ignore them. The problem is that a contributor just coming in wouldn't necessarily know that and add might them anyway.

david wrote:
This came up before. I asked if it would be useful to create a new cast type which is the opposite of 'uncredited': "Credit Only" or "Not Appearing" or so.

A "Credit Only" could be useful. Miguel Ferrer was credited for the entirely of NCIS: LA last season even though he died about half way through the season; so it does happen with some frequency. (though he was main cast not a guest) Opening credits are expensive, so shows aren't going to change them if someone isn't appearing for a week here or there (Scott Caan on Hawaii Five-0 would be a good example of this)

I guess the determining factor for this is what sort of data we want to list and would that "credit only" designation count in a separate field from other appearances? (sort of like a guest character becoming a regular character and is listed twice)

I thought guest cast was pretty clear-cut. If they appeared they're added, otherwise not. It wouldn't be any different than regular cast in that regard.

I think it's more a matter of studio guidelines than cost. Supernatural, for instance, added and dropped Misha Collins and Mark Sheppard as they did/didn't appear in episodes all season.

But Arrow did. So it's more a matter of what Kripke's studio decided to do than anything. I believe the current trend is to list them whether Main Cast whether they do or not. A listing of someone who didn't appear in the guest cast is more a matter of last-minute editing than anything.

That's the US side of things. On UK's Lucky Man, for instance, they only listed people who appeared. I don't watch enough UK shows to know if that's the norm or not.

Sheryl Lee is so far added as Guest Cast in every episode of Season 3 of Twin Peaks, but she only appeared in 3 out of 8 so far, I deleted her from the 5 episodes she did not appear in.

Strangely, no other guest cast has such an anomaly in Twin Peaks, it is only Sheryl Lee.

Gadfly wrote:
I think it's more a matter of studio guidelines than cost. Supernatural, for instance, added and dropped Misha Collins and Mark Sheppard as they did/didn't appear in episodes all season.

But Arrow did. So it's more a matter of what Kripke's studio decided to do than anything. I believe the current trend is to list them whether Main Cast whether they do or not. A listing of someone who didn't appear in the guest cast is more a matter of last-minute editing than anything.

Supernatural and Arrow don't have opening credit sequences, they have more of an opening splash screen and the actor names are rolled over the opening scenes of the episode; that's much easier to update. Compare that to something like NCIS, Hawaii Five-0 or any number of shows that actually have an opening credits sequence (theme music, episode snippets, actor faces shown) and that's a lot more time and effort to change/update weekly or even more than once a season so there is a higher frequency of actors credited for episodes they don't necessarily appear in.

JuanArango wrote:
Sheryl Lee is so far added as Guest Cast in every episode of Season 3 of Twin Peaks, but she only appeared in 3 out of 8 so far, I deleted her from the 5 episodes she did not appear in.

Strangely, no other guest cast has such an anomaly in Twin Peaks, it is only Sheryl Lee.

I'm not watching it: does she appear in flashbacks or recycled footage or photos or anything? Her agent might have arranged a credit to recognize her "work" for that.

JuanArango wrote:
Sheryl Lee is so far added as Guest Cast in every episode of Season 3 of Twin Peaks, but she only appeared in 3 out of 8 so far, I deleted her from the 5 episodes she did not appear in.

Strangely, no other guest cast has such an anomaly in Twin Peaks, it is only Sheryl Lee.

Someone is a fan ;)

LadyShelley wrote:
Someone is a fan ;)

Yes, I watched the show when it aired 25 years ago and was thrilled to my seat and I love almost all of David Lynch's work :)

JuanArango wrote:
Sheryl Lee is so far added as Guest Cast in every episode of Season 3 of Twin Peaks, but she only appeared in 3 out of 8 so far, I deleted her from the 5 episodes she did not appear in.

Strangely, no other guest cast has such an anomaly in Twin Peaks, it is only Sheryl Lee.

That's not exactly true. Bob for example appearing only in flashbacks, reusing old footage. But they still credit him. Out of respect I guess.

tnt wrote:
That's not exactly true. Bob for example appearing only in flashbacks, reusing old footage. But they still credit him. Out of respect I guess.

yes, this is def out of respect and at least you see him in the episodes :)

JuanArango wrote:
yes, this is def out of respect and at least you see him in the episodes :)

You also could see Lora Palmer at the very beginning of every episode :)

tnt wrote:
You also could see Lora Palmer at the very beginning of every episode :)

That is something different :P

JuanArango wrote:
That is something different :P

Probably not in David Lynch's head :D

tnt wrote:
Probably not in David Lynch's head :D

I seriously do not want to know what is in his head after watching this weeks episode :)