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@tnt wrote:
As you can see https://www.tvmaze.com/seasons/98896/manhunt-season-2, "Lone Wolf" is already added as season 2. The rule you quoted doesn't matter in this case, since it's an anthology series, i.e. each season have it's own cast by design (think Fargo, True Detective). But John Goldwyn and Andrew Sodroski are returning as EPs.

My question about this show is about the fact that it shows on TVMaze as being a Web Channel (Spectrum) show when in fact it started out exclusively on Discovery Channel and now page has been changed to Spectrum (which isn't really a web channel at all). Spectrum did take it over but maybe it SHOULD be a separate show entry?

Or maybe the TVMaze admins need to expand on the show info box. 

Another example is "Mad About You". Started out on NBC in 1992 and ran to 1999. Now 20 years later it has been revived...apparently with the same two main characters.

Wikipedia: it initially aired on NBC from September 23, 1992 to May 24, 1999, winning numerous awards including four Golden Globe Awards and twelve Primetime Emmy Awards. On March 6, 2019, a limited series revival was picked up by Spectrum Originals for 12 episodes.

The 2019 show either needs to be a separate one noted as a reboot, or TVMaze needs to expand on the Show Info box parameters/fields/etc.

@suemac wrote:
Or maybe the TVMaze admins need to expand on the show info box. 

It's been asked for in the past for the info box to list previous networks / web as currently it's a bit misleading.

However, it is according to policy to list it as a continuation when it's simply taken over by another channel

@suemac wrote:

Another example is "Mad About You". Started out on NBC in 1992 and ran to 1999. Now 20 years later it has been revived...apparently with the same two main characters.

The 2019 show either needs to be a separate one noted as a reboot, or TVMaze needs to expand on the Show Info box parameters/fields/etc.

I don't know enough about it, but we have a policy regarding continuations/reboots on the shows data policy.

There's 4 conditions that have to be met for it to be listed as a continuation. If these aren't met, then yes, we would need to list it as a separate show.

@gazza911 wrote:
It's been asked for in the past for the info box to list previous networks / web as currently it's a bit misleading.

However, it is according to policy to list it as a continuation when it's simply taken over by another channel

I don't know enough about it, but we have a policy regarding continuations/reboots on the shows data policy.

There's 4 conditions that have to be met for it to be listed as a continuation. If these aren't met, then yes, we would need to list it as a separate show.

Thanks. When were the policies last reviewed? So often I see forum posts responses quoting the policies. Too often.

While I'm at it, Where is/Is there an "About Us" page on TVMaze. Lots of stuff is showing Features, API, Blog, Data Policies...etc.....but so far haven't been able to find out the who and the why. There's Jan, and Dave?, right? Who are they, why did they set up this site, and what does the future hold?

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@suemac wrote:
Thanks. When were the policies last reviewed? So often I see forum posts responses quoting the policies. Too often.

I don't remember when that part was added, but a long time ago.

@suemac wrote:
While I'm at it, Where is/Is there an "About Us" page on TVMaze. Lots of stuff is showing Features, API, Blog, Data Policies...etc.....but so far haven't been able to find out the who and the why. There's Jan, and Dave?, right? Who are they, why did they set up this site, and what does the future hold?

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Yes, Jan & David are the two admins; you can see why they created TVmaze here: https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/20/about

In terms of "what does the future hold" - this blog has some information, but for other stuff you'll have to wait until we're ready to announce it.

https://www.tvmaze.com/showexternal/update?id=48523  no sync pls

@horizon wrote:
https://www.tvmaze.com/showexternal/update?id=48523  no sync pls

I've un-synced it.

@gazza911 wrote:
I don't remember when that part was added, but a long time ago.

Yes, Jan & David are the two admins; you can see why they created TVmaze here: https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/20/about

In terms of "what does the future hold" - this blog has some information, but for other stuff you'll have to wait until we're ready to announce it.

1) Policies ----

2) HOME FAQ CATEGORIES MISCELLANEOUS ABOUT       Without your link I'd never have found it. THAT is Wrong, detrimental, sad, etc etc

3) Future? your link to blog is "Black Friday & Cyber Monday are on their way." Ok, that was late Nov 2019. It's now June 6 2020, so how is that helpful?

Thanks for your time & effort,

frustrated suemac

@suemac wrote:
My question about this show is about the fact that it shows on TVMaze as being a Web Channel (Spectrum) show when in fact it started out exclusively on Discovery Channel and now page has been changed to Spectrum (which isn't really a web channel at all). Spectrum did take it over but maybe it SHOULD be a separate show entry?

Or maybe the TVMaze admins need to expand on the show info box. 

Another example is "Mad About You". Started out on NBC in 1992 and ran to 1999. Now 20 years later it has been revived...apparently with the same two main characters.

Wikipedia: it initially aired on NBC from September 23, 1992 to May 24, 1999, winning numerous awards including four Golden Globe Awards and twelve Primetime Emmy Awards. On March 6, 2019, a limited series revival was picked up by Spectrum Originals for 12 episodes.

The 2019 show either needs to be a separate one noted as a reboot, or TVMaze needs to expand on the Show Info box parameters/fields/etc.

 

The show info is meant to show current info, not old info like where it aired previously or in some cases if the runtime has changed (Kimmel, Conan). If you go to the individual season pages, it says what network they were originally aired on. 

As for Spectrum being a web channel, it makes more sense as a web channel since it doesn't have a broadcast channel either. Their shows are available over a set top box On Demand or using their On Demand app. 

@suemac wrote:
1) Policies ----

2) HOME FAQ CATEGORIES MISCELLANEOUS ABOUT       Without your link I'd never have found it. THAT is Wrong, detrimental, sad, etc etc

3) Future? your link to blog is "Black Friday & Cyber Monday are on their way." Ok, that was late Nov 2019. It's now June 6 2020, so how is that helpful?

Thanks for your time & effort,

frustrated suemac

2) It's been brought up before (alas, nothing I can do)

3) There's a section titled "What we want to accomplish in 2020". No other information is public yet, so unfortunately I can't disclose anything more than that.

Italy's Invisible Cities is missing the Thetvdb id: 322037 https://thetvdb.com/?id=322037&tab=series http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/23710/italys-invisible-cities http://www.tvmaze.com/showexternal/view?id=23710

Land of Hope and Glory: British Country Life is missing the Thetvdb id: 308490 https://thetvdb.com/?id=308490&tab=series http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/13438/land-of-hope-and-glory-british-country-life http://www.tvmaze.com/showexternal/view?id=13438

Martin Clunes: Islands of Australia is missing the Thetvdb id: 322507 https://thetvdb.com/?id=322507&tab=series http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/21419/martin-clunes-islands-of-australia http://www.tvmaze.com/showexternal/view?id=21419

@kevin87 wrote:
The show info is meant to show current info, not old info like where it aired previously or in some cases if the runtime has changed (Kimmel, Conan). If you go to the individual season pages, it says what network they were originally aired on. 

As for Spectrum being a web channel, it makes more sense as a web channel since it doesn't have a broadcast channel either. Their shows are available over a set top box On Demand or using their On Demand app. 

1st paragraph: WHOA Nelly! What you are saying is in direct opposite of everything I've garnered from the policies AND have seen for the past coupla years. So, from what you are saying, an old show from 1990s that I am watching on AcornTV that was originally on BBC should be Listed as Acorn rather than the Original producer BBC? Acorn TV had nothing to do with original production. There are no Air dates on AcornTV....any dates are just when they put it out there. 

You are totally wrong or I am totally crazy.

@suemac wrote:
1st paragraph: WHOA Nelly! What you are saying is in direct opposite of everything I've garnered from the policies AND have seen for the past coupla years. So, from what you are saying, an old show from 1990s that I am watching on AcornTV that was originally on BBC should be Listed as Acorn rather than the Original producer BBC? Acorn TV had nothing to do with original production. There are no Air dates on AcornTV....any dates are just when they put it out there. 

You are totally wrong or I am totally crazy.

Uh, no. What? You're comparing two different things. Spectrum is the ONLY place the new season is available because when it was revived by Sony, the original production company, they're who won whatever behind-the-scenes bidding may or may not have taken place. They're not just simply airing reruns of somebody else's original show, which is what Acorn would be doing. What I said was it shouldn't say NBC anymore because it's meant to show current info, not old info... and the show no longer airs on NBC. If you look at the season pages, season 7 for example, it says it aired on NBC to accommodate old info.

@kevin87 wrote:
The show info is meant to show current info, not old info like where it aired previously or in some cases if the runtime has changed (Kimmel, Conan). If you go to the individual season pages, it says what network they were originally aired on. 

As for Spectrum being a web channel, it makes more sense as a web channel since it doesn't have a broadcast channel either. Their shows are available over a set top box On Demand or using their On Demand app. 

Paragraph 2, Spectrum: I get that Web Channel makes more sense ok? I just don't like that a show than ran for years in the 1990s on a network -now shows as being an original web channel that wasn't even around then. The 20 years later, albeit with same main actors/characters, should be a new entry with links to 1990s? 

SO, is TVMaze all about historical tv shows or about where you can watch shows now....or somewhere in between?

I'm now reviewing the about and guidelines...

cheers

@suemac wrote:
Paragraph 2, Spectrum: I get that Web Channel makes more sense ok? I just don't like that a show than ran for years in the 1990s on a network -now shows as being an original web channel that wasn't even around then. The 20 years later, albeit with same main actors/characters, should be a new entry with links to 1990s? 

SO, is TVMaze all about historical tv shows or about where you can watch shows now....or somewhere in between?

I'm now reviewing the about and guidelines...

cheers

 

It doesn't matter that it wasn't around then, because it's around now and the new season IS a web original because it is no longer on NBC. It is the same show with the same name, same actors (where possible), some of the same crew, and from the same production studio (Sony). Shows get cancelled and picked up by other networks fairly often, does that mean each time it happens they also need a new show entry for each network? Because it'd be overkill to list shows like Buffy, Community, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Supergirl or Brooklyn Nine-Nine twice. Or list Veronica Mars three times.

And again, If you look at a show's season page, it says where it originally aired. 

@suemac To clear up the confusion:

Manhunt Season 2 is considered as a continuation (it just moved to Spectrum). We still keep season 1 as the Discovery Channel.
As the latest season aired on Spectrum, we now set the Web Channel on the main show page to Spectrum (as well as updating any other relevant information).

This does not mean that we update it whenever another network decides to broadcast it, simply that as Spectrum are the new owner we update it accordingly.

The situation with "Mad About You" may be completely different (I don't know the specifics of the show) and we need to confirm if it should be considered as a continuation (season 8), or created as a separate show. For reference, here is an extract from the shows data policy:

"Only if all of the following are true, the continuation should be part of the existing show entry:

1. The new network/web channel refers to the show as a continuation
2. The new network/web channel does not refer to the pilot as "season 1"
3. At least one of the previous show's creators or executive producers is involved with the continuation
4. At least one of the previous show's main cast members is starring in the continuation"

If you have proof that it does not meet any of those 4 criteria, then please could you provide it.

@kevin87 wrote:
Uh, no. What? You're comparing two different things. Spectrum is the ONLY place the new season is available because when it was revived by Sony, the original production company, they're who won whatever behind-the-scenes bidding may or may not have taken place. They're not just simply airing reruns of somebody else's original show, which is what Acorn would be doing. What I said was it shouldn't say NBC anymore because it's meant to show current info, not old info... and the show no longer airs on NBC. If you look at the season pages, season 7 for example, it says it aired on NBC to accommodate old info.

 I was looking a show pages and not season pages. So show pages are pretty much meaning less as far as a show's history. I am saddened by that.

Criminy! I think I'll just take my toys and leave the playground.

@suemac wrote:
 I was looking a show pages and not season pages. So show pages are pretty much meaning less as far as a show's history. I am saddened by that.

Criminy! I think I'll just take my toys and leave the playground.

Maybe that is the best option for you, if you do not like it here :) 

@gazza911 wrote:
The situation with "Mad About You" may be completely different (I don't know the specifics of the show) and we need to confirm if it should be considered as a continuation (season 8), or created as a separate show. For reference, here is an extract from the shows data policy:

The Mad About You situation was discussed a while ago. 
https://www.tvmaze.com/threads/3749/mad-about-you-revival

please delete this entry

https://www.tvmaze.com/people/273990/chaton-anderson

my mouse double clicked or something so two of the same was created

and remove one of the two entrys for chaton anderson on this episode, same double click happened i believe

https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/337098/models-inc-1x02-be-my-be-my-baby

@mad_man1983 wrote:
please delete this entry

https://www.tvmaze.com/people/273990/chaton-anderson

my mouse double clicked or something so two of the same was created

 

and remove one of the two entrys for chaton anderson on this episode, same double click happened i believe

https://www.tvmaze.com/episodes/337098/models-inc-1x02-be-my-be-my-baby

done. ;)