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kevin87 wrote 3 years ago: 1

The press release for Mickey Mouse Funhouse said the first episode was a special... 

“Mickey Mouse Funhouse” debuts with a primetime special “Mickey the Brave!” on FRIDAY, JULY 16, on Disney Junior (7:30 p.m. EDT/PDT), followed by the series premiere FRIDAY, AUG. 20, on both Disney Channel and Disney Junior (8:00 a.m. EDT/PDT).

@dpratt  pointed out that the Disney press site and DisneyNow has it labeled as episode 1 and not a special as for example, the Raven's Home/BUNK'D specials were (though we know Disney and most American network sites can't correctly label a special and just give it an episode number to keep them in airdate order). But now the August programming schedule specifically calls the August 20th episodes the "series premiere" and Mickey The Brave was a full 30-minute episode and not split into segments as Disney Junior shows typically are.

Friday, Aug. 20
Original Series – Series Premiere on Disney Channel and Disney Junior
Mickey Mouse Funhouse “Homesick/Goldfish Goofy!”
(8:00-8:25 a.m. EDT)

So, the press releases calling the episodes specials and series premiere should be what we follow, right?


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dpratt wrote 3 years ago: 1

Mickey Mouse Funhouse premieres the most episodes on DisneyNow.com (web channel). That means that according to TVmaze polilcy we follow the DisneyNow airtimes and press releases. DisneyNow calls it S1 E1 on their web site https://disneynow.com/shows/mickey-mouse-funhouse It is only called a special when it airs during primetime on Disney Junior due to the unusual evening air time.

In case it isn't obvious the reason DisneyNow premeires the most episodes, it is because on August 27 a new episode airs on the following networks in the following order: DisneyNow (morning), Disney Channel (8am), and Disney Junior (11am). Since S1 E1 premiered on DisneyNow (morning) and Disney Junior (primetime) and the Aug27 episode will premiere on DisneyNow, DisneyNow premieres the most episodes. Disney Channel and Disney Junior shows don't always have press releases corresponding to their DisneyNow premiere but we know from historical patterns that they are always made available on DisneyNow on the same day before airing on TV no matter the network.

dgepress.com also gives it production number 101 which is different from how it labels specials. There are also press releases calling it a sneak peek https://disneytvanimation.com/post/654165064858943488/mickey-mouse-funhouse-sets-july-16-sneak-peek. A lot of networks are doing this now where they premiere a series with a sneak peek episode (episode 1) and then follow it with what they call the premiere (episode 2)

So this is my argument why it should be considered Episode 1 not a special.

 

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@jimmyphalen wrote:
do you consider imdb official?

of course not, why would we? anyone can edit information on imdb. so it's no different from tvdb, or wiki, or any other community-maintained web site.

This is a tough one to prove because amazon/discovery themselves do not even classify these properly.  If you consider the source of the stream an official source then the correct answer is each episode is episode 1 of its own season 1.  As in every episode is a single episode of its own season in the series.  Which obviously is a dumb decision, but that is on amazon's part.  I just figured the correct manor was everything in one season because thats how it is listed literally everywhere else on the internet.

per TVmaze policy, if the show's source not using season numbers, the premiere year of the episode should be used as season number. https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/15/episodes
this is what we're doing for film anthologies

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@fli718 wrote:
Can someone please remove Julie Chen from last night's episode Power of Veto (2) - Big Brother S23E06 | TVmaze? I can safely confirm now for sure that she was not there. Sorry for all the trouble. Thanks!

please, do not write about that everywhere you can. you already made a request here, what's the point of writing the same in the episode comments?
episode comments are not the place for the cast appearance notes, we don't read them. moreover, after her appearance was removed your commend looks weird.

 

fli718 wrote 3 years ago: 1

@tnt wrote:
please, do not write about that everywhere you can. you already made a request here, what's the point of writing the same in the episode comments?
episode comments are not the place for the cast appearance notes, we don't read them. moreover, after her appearance was removed your commend looks weird.

 

Ok, will do. Sorry for all the trouble. Please feel free to delete the comment (it's been too long, so I can't do it myself). I won't do that again; sorry. 


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kevin87 wrote 3 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
Mickey Mouse Funhouse premieres the most episodes on DisneyNow.com (web channel). That means that according to TVmaze polilcy we follow the DisneyNow airtimes and press releases. DisneyNow calls it S1 E1 on their web site https://disneynow.com/shows/mickey-mouse-funhouse It is only called a special when it airs during primetime on Disney Junior due to the unusual evening air time.

In case it isn't obvious the reason DisneyNow premeires the most episodes, it is because on August 27 a new episode airs on the following networks in the following order: DisneyNow (morning), Disney Channel (8am), and Disney Junior (11am). Since S1 E1 premiered on DisneyNow (morning) and Disney Junior (primetime) and the Aug27 episode will premiere on DisneyNow, DisneyNow premieres the most episodes. Disney Channel and Disney Junior shows don't always have press releases corresponding to their DisneyNow premiere but we know from historical patterns that they are always made available on DisneyNow on the same day before airing on TV no matter the network.

dgepress.com also gives it production number 101 which is different from how it labels specials. There are also press releases calling it a sneak peek https://disneytvanimation.com/post/654165064858943488/mickey-mouse-funhouse-sets-july-16-sneak-peek. A lot of networks are doing this now where they premiere a series with a sneak peek episode (episode 1) and then follow it with what they call the premiere (episode 2)

So this is my argument why it should be considered Episode 1 not a special.

 

It's not exactly that straight forward to me. DisneyNow doesn't always have an episode before it airs, we just agreed on using them because they do most of the time, and because it helped simplify stuff when shows were premiering across the different networks without any pattern, like when a show promoted as a Disney Junior show would air an episode on Disney Junior but then would premiere another on the Disney Junior block on Disney Channel. 

There's also the fact that DisneyNow (along with basically every American network) isn't equipped to label anything as a special online because they seem to be ordered by episode numbers and not airdates like UK network websites can handle, and a production number doesn't entirely mean it's not a special, they could consider it a special and since it's animated, just have produced it with all the others since it's not like the cast and crew were on break like a live action show. 

I'm fine either way, but there's conflicting information from the same studio.

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@lizardo wrote:
Talking Comedy has Bob Hope on the show but its archive footage. Is that allowed?

Of course not. The person should be credited only if their performance was shot for this particular show. No one in their right mind would credit the person in the episode produced 12 years after their passing. 

It looks like the rest of the appearances are the same, so would be removed as well.

 

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@kevin87 wrote:
I'm fine either way, but there's conflicting information from the same studio.

In some cases, there might be multiple sources that conflict with each other. When that happens, they should be considered in the following order:

1. Data shown on-screen during the episode's announcement, intro, or credits
2. Data in a press release or press kit
3. Data on the show's official website
https://www.tvmaze.com/faq/15/episodes 

We should follow the information from the press release @dpratt 

Also, I agree that the assumption under which DisneyNOW premieres ALL episodes of ALL shows doesn't have any official backing. There's no specific release time announced, so unless Disney themselves say somewhere that episode was released on DisneyNOW first, it's only an assumption. All I can see in the official statements is that Each series will be available in DisneyNOW on their respective premiere dates, which is very ambiguous and could mean anything from 12 am to 11:59 pm. Whereas calling the August 20th episode a Series Premiere is extremely clear and unambiguous.

Hence my suggestion would be to change the show to Disney Channel and follow its schedule and enumeration.


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TomSouthwell wrote 3 years ago: 1

@kevin87 wrote:
It's not exactly that straight forward to me. DisneyNow doesn't always have an episode before it airs, we just agreed on using them because they do most of the time, and because it helped simplify stuff when shows were premiering across the different networks without any pattern, like when a show promoted as a Disney Junior show would air an episode on Disney Junior but then would premiere another on the Disney Junior block on Disney Channel. 

There's also the fact that DisneyNow (along with basically every American network) isn't equipped to label anything as a special online because they seem to be ordered by episode numbers and not airdates like UK network websites can handle, and a production number doesn't entirely mean it's not a special, they could consider it a special and since it's animated, just have produced it with all the others since it's not like the cast and crew were on break like a live action show. 

I'm fine either way, but there's conflicting information from the same studio.

Production numbers should have nothing to do with how we list animations as most animations are produced out of airing order anyway :). 


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TomSouthwell wrote 3 years ago: 1

@dpratt wrote:
Mickey Mouse Funhouse premieres the most episodes on DisneyNow.com (web channel). That means that according to TVmaze polilcy we follow the DisneyNow airtimes and press releases. DisneyNow calls it S1 E1 on their web site https://disneynow.com/shows/mickey-mouse-funhouse It is only called a special when it airs during primetime on Disney Junior due to the unusual evening air time.

In case it isn't obvious the reason DisneyNow premeires the most episodes, it is because on August 27 a new episode airs on the following networks in the following order: DisneyNow (morning), Disney Channel (8am), and Disney Junior (11am). Since S1 E1 premiered on DisneyNow (morning) and Disney Junior (primetime) and the Aug27 episode will premiere on DisneyNow, DisneyNow premieres the most episodes. Disney Channel and Disney Junior shows don't always have press releases corresponding to their DisneyNow premiere but we know from historical patterns that they are always made available on DisneyNow on the same day before airing on TV no matter the network.

dgepress.com also gives it production number 101 which is different from how it labels specials. There are also press releases calling it a sneak peek https://disneytvanimation.com/post/654165064858943488/mickey-mouse-funhouse-sets-july-16-sneak-peek. A lot of networks are doing this now where they premiere a series with a sneak peek episode (episode 1) and then follow it with what they call the premiere (episode 2)

So this is my argument why it should be considered Episode 1 not a special.

 

You've put alot of "facts" with no sources backing it up. Who's saying it's only called a special because its airing in prime time? We can't guess the airing pattern of the episodes here either when @kevin87 is saying that not all episodes of every show have aired in that pattern either. 

Press release trumps all other sources according to our policies, and the press release provided says the episode is a special. 

tnt wrote 3 years ago: 1

@blackcat2021 wrote:
Hi, please delete the episodes 2x10, 2x11, 2x12, 2x13, 3x15, 3x16, 3x17, 3x18  from https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/5874/the-chase/episodes (reason: non-existing episodes)
Thx.

Not sure where you getting the information? For example, there definitely were episodes on January 21st, 28th, and February 4th of 2014. The latter was a season finale.
https://www.facebook.com/TheChaseUsa/photos/a.1391441124402665/1459201317626645/
https://www.facebook.com/TheChaseUsa/photos/a.1391441124402665/1461100730770037/
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1461796224033821

I see that some of the s3 episodes are duplicates, but the season finale was on December 16th
https://www.facebook.com/TheChaseUsa/photos/a.1391441124402665/1572765742936868/

Also, do they really had episode names originally?

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